great sticks. not alot of offset to them, so no training wheels. very crushing sensation when nutted properly. still quite forgiving as long as you're not cutting weakly across it.
would reccomend to anyone who is serious about getting better game. get the right shafts, though. i got S300's with mine, and never felt like i was loading them properly. so i got them changed out for something a little softer & high launching.
chances are, they can be had for a song right now with the introduction of the x-18 series.