To answer an earlier question, I tried it on the range several times, hit some great six irons, but it broke down on me during play. I've also been trying and am more committed to the one plane moe norman swing. I've found that to be easier to adopt and fewer moving parts with the one plane. S&T seemed much more foreign. I'm improving with the one plane swing so plan to stick with that for the summer, i'm gaining more ground with that technique than with the S&t. I'm sure some players may do better with s&t...everyone is different, I don't think there is one perfect swing for all...I hate how some teachers jam that down your throat.