Use these balls. Period. They have incredible spin around greens, and no spin off tee. I have used one i have for about a month. About 9 holes every 18 I use it. It only has a couple scrape marks, but still for a months use, it has stayed way better than my hx tour and hx tour 56. I still have 2 sleeves left to. I'm good to go for a little while. =) IMO this is the best ball for the price. Have seen them at Dick's for 30 dollars a dozen!