Billyg. I just had a club fitting for the Ping !-15 irons and driver. And I can say they are both excellent clubs. Problem is the Price of new Ping irons is a bit more than what a new golfer is most likely willing to spend. especially if they don't know for sure that they are going to continue with the game. This is why I recommend a new golfer to buy used irons or less expensive sets from a place like Hireko or Giga Golf. They sell very good quality clubs for less than half the price of new OEM irons.