triple: i really like the red apex. it comes off the driver nice, no harsh sound. I think you can probably get more distance with other balls, but what i like about this ball is it's action around the greens and with the irons. It will stop and has plenty of action when hit right. It has a nice feel to it with the putter and those chip shots.

I've tried the pro-v1 also, but cannot tell any difference. I can buy the apex much cheaper on e-bay compared to the pro-v1, so that's what i have been doing.

ps: i've tried the hawk also, it's a good ball with good spin, but the apex will really give you more spin and stop kind of control.

stagday