Pointless debate, Uc8U, I agree, Fun to talk about, definetly. There are many things you could look at that could forshadow the events of this upcoming season. Most of which lean toward Tiger being the heavy favorite in the 2005 season. I give Vijay a large amount of credit, to having an awesome season, 9 wins, thats great!! But you have to look at tiger, he had many years IN A ROW with the same level of play that Vijay had this season. Tiger didn't have to "under go" extensive swing changes, but he did, for the future. His performance at the Target World Challenge was exeptional. Mistakes often caused by his putting, if he was putting well, his win would of been a run away. And the thing that really touched me the wrong way, was after Saturdays round the reporter asked Tiger is now that hes married, is theere more responsibility to winning,to be financially stable, is that guy on??? Tiger makes millions of dollars on endourcements alone! His golf will always be in top shape. Im sure tiger loves the game of golf more than his wife (even though she is drop dead sexy). And he wont let it all go down the tubes for a woman (assumption made). Now seriously, if anyone thinks Vijay is better than Tiger, they couldnt be more incorrect. Even though the World Golf Ranking state otherwise, Tiger is still the dominant force on tour, and Im sure when Tiger plays in events, other tour players are more worried about him than Vijay! :nodsmiley