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Old December 20th, 2005, 10:56 PM
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Shafted?

Shaft broke on a used driver I bought my son, the second time he used it...

Callaway "Great Big Bertha" with a Proforce 65 Gold Tip Stiff shaft

The shaft broke 1.5 inches above club head at the driving range where it was purchased. It is splintered 7" up the shaft and from break to clubhead. There is no indentation in the front of the shaft.

Guy that sold it won't back it, claiming a ball was hit incorrectly, and no, he was not watching the swing, and no, he cannot point to any marks, just insists that is why it broke. Here's the rub, I have spent $300 at the guy's range in the last 2 weeks, between lessons, balls, and the club. He sold it to him knowing he was a beginner, in fact, if he hit it wrong, the only lesson he has had is from these guys Lol...

Getting shafted or take my lumps and move on?
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Old December 20th, 2005, 11:20 PM
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Reshaft with steel, get more lessons and move on (yes, to a different range). Beginners don't need expensive graphite clubs. Maybe there are some chores around the house he can do to help pay for the re-shaft? Oh, and btw, he sold the club to you, not your son...you bought it knowing he was a beginner, too, so you and the range owner can share in that foible. Expensive lesson, but those seem to be the ones that stick, y'know? lol. And about the shaft...hard to say if it was defective...the point is moot now, anyway...were you there to see it break?

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Old December 21st, 2005, 10:36 AM
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They definitely shouldn't have sold your son (a beginner) that club in the first place and should have suggest a knock around driver first.

He is probably right about how the driver broke as it happens alot with the shots taken directly to the hosel or shaft, causing it to weaken and then break.

If you are interested I can reshaft the club at a very low price in steel or graphite for you and your son.

Shot me an email (christian@customgolfsales.com) or give me a call (1-888-305-4956) if you are interested.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 11:33 AM
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Custom-golf-sales: They definitely shouldn't have sold your son (a beginner) that club in the first place and should have suggest a knock around driver first.
He is probably right about how the driver broke as it happens alot with the shots taken directly to the hosel or shaft, causing it to weaken and then break.

[color="Blue"]If you are interested I can reshaft the club at a very low price in steel or graphite for you and your son.[/COLO

First you say they were wrong to sell that driver to the son, which wasn't in fact the son, but the dad. Then you tell the dad how you will re-shaft the same driver for the son? I'm sorry, but this sounds pretty much like a bunch of ****. The guy that sold the club was wrong, but you are right to re-shaft it for the same beginner? How do you explain that change of heart? He's the bad guy, and you're the good guy?

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Old December 21st, 2005, 12:41 PM
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Custom-golf-sales: They definitely shouldn't have sold your son (a beginner) that club in the first place and should have suggest a knock around driver first.
He is probably right about how the driver broke as it happens alot with the shots taken directly to the hosel or shaft, causing it to weaken and then break.

[color="Blue"]If you are interested I can reshaft the club at a very low price in steel or graphite for you and your son.[/COLO

First you say they were wrong to sell that driver to the son, which wasn't in fact the son, but the dad. Then you tell the dad how you will re-shaft the same driver for the son? I'm sorry, but this sounds pretty much like a bunch of ****. The guy that sold the club was wrong, but you are right to re-shaft it for the same beginner? How do you explain that change of heart? He's the bad guy, and you're the good guy?

What are you talking about. What I see is a guy getting a salesman rather then service and then his son breaking a rather good club (nothing you can do there except take your loss unless you want to cause an up roar). So I want to help out.... I offer my serives to him to help and for what its worth I might walk away with $5 in my pocket by helping. Hmmm I am such a bad guy for wanting to help someone during the Christmas Season.

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The guy that sold the club was wrong, but you are right to re-shaft it for the same beginner?[/
Yeah your right. He should throw it in the trash now since he got a bad deal.

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Old December 21st, 2005, 12:43 PM
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maybe I should have put a but in between the first two statemens.......

They definitely shouldn't have sold your son (a beginner) that club in the first place and should have suggest a knock around driver first.
BUT.......
He is probably right about how the driver broke as it happens alot with the shots taken directly to the hosel or shaft, causing it to weaken and then break.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 08:39 PM
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OnePutt, seems to me CGS was criticizing the fact that the range guy sold a beginner (or the father of a beginner, knowing the beginner would be using the club) a driver w/graphite shaft.

CGS then offered his services to re-shaft the club with either steel or graphite to help salvage what was left of the investment. Can't see anything wrong with that.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 10:57 PM
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........maybe the shaft was a pullout ????.....weakened ??
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 11:12 AM
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What's wrong with selling a driver with a graphite shaft to a beginner, or anyone else, for that matter. Next time you have an spare hour to kill, go to any golf shop and look for a steel shaft driver from one of the top OEM's. GOOD LUCK FINDING ONE. Truth is, almost every driver in the store will have a graphite shaft, that's about all they make these days. And what's wrong with a graphite shaft for a beginner anyway? When my wife and I started playing golf, we both got drivers with graphite shafts. Haven't broken one yet. And neither have the majority of golfers that I know. ****, if you check, I think you will find just about every cheap beginner set of clubs come with graphite shafts in all the clubs, not just the driver. AND, IT WAS THE DAD THAT PURCHASED THE CLUB, NOT THE SON. And if you hand a credit card to ANY salesman in ANY golf shop, and tell them you want a certain club, they will all take your credit card and ring up the charge. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A SALEMAN REFUSED TO TAKE YOUR MONEY FOR ANYTHING????

Yes, there are some cheap drivers to be found with steel shafts, if you look hard enough. So what was the option for the guy that sold the driver to the dad? He could refuse to sell dad that driver, and instead try to sell dad a cheap piece of junk with a steel shaft for $40. Knowing that dad would be back later for the better driver with the graphite shaft?

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Old December 22nd, 2005, 11:45 AM
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And if you hand a credit card to ANY salesman in ANY golf shop, and tell them you want a certain club, they will all take your credit card and ring up the charge. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A SALEMAN REFUSED TO TAKE YOUR MONEY FOR ANYTHING????
That is your opinion. I didn't get where I am today without helping people and suggesting different clubs to people (if I am just a salesman then why learn anything about golf?). I have sold $200.00 less clubs to customers that want the most expensive. When you explain why you want to help and why it will help them then you will have a good customer for life that will recommend people to you.

So what I am saying is I totally disagree with your statement!!!!!!!!!

To each his own and I hope you have a Merry Christmas!!!
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 11:59 AM
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Yeah your right. He should throw it in the trash now since he got a bad deal.
Better yet, he should let me know how much it would cost to ship the driver head to Baltimore and I will give him the money. Let me know if you want to do that and I'll give you my address.
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Old December 24th, 2005, 01:12 AM
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What's wrong with selling a driver with a graphite shaft to a beginner, or anyone else, for that matter. Next time you have an spare hour to kill, go to any golf shop and look for a steel shaft driver from one of the top OEM's. GOOD LUCK FINDING ONE. Truth is, almost every driver in the store will have a graphite shaft, that's about all they make these days. And what's wrong with a graphite shaft for a beginner anyway? When my wife and I started playing golf, we both got drivers with graphite shafts. Haven't broken one yet. And neither have the majority of golfers that I know. ****, if you check, I think you will find just about every cheap beginner set of clubs come with graphite shafts in all the clubs, not just the driver. AND, IT WAS THE DAD THAT PURCHASED THE CLUB, NOT THE SON. And if you hand a credit card to ANY salesman in ANY golf shop, and tell them you want a certain club, they will all take your credit card and ring up the charge. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A SALEMAN REFUSED TO TAKE YOUR MONEY FOR ANYTHING????

Yes, there are some cheap drivers to be found with steel shafts, if you look hard enough. So what was the option for the guy that sold the driver to the dad? He could refuse to sell dad that driver, and instead try to sell dad a cheap piece of junk with a steel shaft for $40. Knowing that dad would be back later for the better driver with the graphite shaft?
1. First you say you can't find steel shafts, even in the cheap sets, then you say you can, but it's junk...so if it's not OEM then it's junk, right?

2. Perhaps you can explain the benefit of hitting a graphite shaft as opposed to steel and why a beginner needs it...or an OEM club, for that matter.

3. Nowhere does Floggist say that he used a credit card...in fact he doesn't even say whether he was present for any of the purchases or the range sessions either.

4. Show me where he says the kid picked out the club. Purchasing a top-of-the-line club and having one sold to you are not the same thing, especially if you're a kid (even with daddy's credit card).

5. If you want to know where I stand on the issue, take a peek at my sig.

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