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Old January 10th, 2007, 01:09 PM
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Regrooving Tools...are these legal?

A buddy of mine uses a tool to re-groove his wedges and gets incredible action around the greens. I tried this on one of my wedges and couldn't believe how easy it is to get the ball to check up on chips and pitches...is this thing legal to use?

http://www.golfsmith.com/products/8287
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Old January 10th, 2007, 01:10 PM
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I think they're legal as long as the grooves are conforming.
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Old January 10th, 2007, 02:18 PM
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Anyone else used this? Is your club still conforming after using it? Does it really add noticeable spin?
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Old January 10th, 2007, 05:12 PM
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a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.
Therefore, you can't use a grooving tool during competition. But you can use it before or after a round, so long as the grooves meet USGA specs:
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c. Impact Area Markings
Markings in the impact area must not have sharp edges
or raised lips as determined by a finger test. Grooves or punch marks in the impact area must meet the following specifications:

(i) Grooves. A series of straight grooves with diverging sides and a symmetrical cross-section may be used (see Fig. X).

• The width and cross-section must be consistent across the face of the club and along the length of the grooves.

• Any rounding of groove edges shall be in the form of a radius which does not exceed 0.020 inches (0.508 mm).

• The width of the grooves must not exceed 0.035 inches (0.9 mm), using the 30 degree method of measurement on file with the United States Golf Association.

• The distance between edges of adjacent grooves must not be less than three times the width of a groove, and not less than 0.075 inches (1.905 mm).

• The depth of a groove must not exceed 0.020 inches (0.508 mm).


Square grooves are illegal. Regrooving is not a bad idea but keep in mind that it takes a good while to wear down grooves...of course that depends on hardness of the metal but you sure don't want to overuse the groove tool (cut too much). Sharp grooves are less important for the long irons than they are for the mid and short irons. Fresh grooves help but how you hit the ball is still the primary factor in imparting spin.

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Old January 10th, 2007, 11:37 PM
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c. Impact Area Markings
Markings in the impact area must not have sharp edges
or raised lips as determined by a finger test. Grooves or punch marks in the impact area must meet the following specifications:

(i) Grooves. A series of straight grooves with diverging sides and a symmetrical cross-section may be used (see Fig. X).

• The width and cross-section must be consistent across the face of the club and along the length of the grooves.

• Any rounding of groove edges shall be in the form of a radius which does not exceed 0.020 inches (0.508 mm).

• The width of the grooves must not exceed 0.035 inches (0.9 mm), using the 30 degree method of measurement on file with the United States Golf Association.

• The distance between edges of adjacent grooves must not be less than three times the width of a groove, and not less than 0.075 inches (1.905 mm).

• The depth of a groove must not exceed 0.020 inches (0.508 mm).
I would include a diagram, but suffice it to say that grooves with the shapes:
V, U, and \_/ are allowed. If the grooves made by the tool are within these guidelines, they are legal.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 07:06 AM
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Just moving this to the proper forum.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 01:46 PM
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A buddy of mine uses a tool to re-groove his wedges and gets incredible action around the greens. I tried this on one of my wedges and couldn't believe how easy it is to get the ball to check up on chips and pitches...is this thing legal to use?

http://www.golfsmith.com/products/8287
As stated by the others, as long as the size of the grooves stay inside the limits set, the new groove will be legal. What I'd like to know is your friends opinion of how easy or hard it is to use the tool on different sets of irons. Is it easy to use, or is it easy to mess up a nice set of clubs? Would you mind asking him and getting back to us? Thanks in advance.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 03:51 PM
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oooh i so want one now
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Old January 17th, 2007, 09:41 PM
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Anyone have anymore input on this? I would like to use one on my wedges that are several years old but don't want to pay $30 for one if it's not worth a ****.

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Old January 17th, 2007, 11:52 PM
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what about this tool?

http://www.amazon.com/IZZO-Club-Medi.../dp/B00023GN92

i am very interested in one of these.
if anyone has one, how long does it last?
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Old January 17th, 2007, 11:54 PM
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ok i found it at golfsmith, going to go buy it now and ill give some feedback

http://www.golfsmith.com/products/8331
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Old January 18th, 2007, 12:37 AM
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doh, closed at 8pm now on. business must not be so good.
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Old January 18th, 2007, 12:56 AM
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Old January 18th, 2007, 09:42 AM
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thanks eshieh. for $10 i'll see if I can find one locally. not as bad as spending $30 on the other one for just a couple of wedges.
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Old January 18th, 2007, 05:18 PM
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bought it today, it works OK, but quickly wore away after about 3-4 grooves. its pretty much used up already.. i was thinking about buying the replacement carbide bit for the golfsmith one and making my own handle. the bit may be worth 8 bux, but the handle sure isnt worth the $20.

i wouldnt recommend the IZZO thing. carbide is the way to go. i wonder if i could find something from a machine shop or harbor freight etc..
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