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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:13 PM
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lost ball penalty

What do you do for a lost ball or an OB? Its not practical to go back to the original spot or the tee box to play another. Do you just take a drop and hit your... 4th? shot? (for balls lost on a tee shot)..

What are the rules on this? Thanks.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:18 PM
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What do you do for a lost ball or an OB? Its not practical to go back to the original spot or the tee box to play another. Do you just take a drop and hit your... 4th? shot? (for balls lost on a tee shot)..

What are the rules on this? Thanks.
The "Rules" don't care if it's practical or not. If you're playing by the rules, you go back and rehit (you should've hit a provisional off the tee if you thought you might be OB). If it's a causual round with your buddies just do whatever they recommend and move on.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:25 PM
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Yeah, going back and rehitting would be following the rules, and I would like to play by them, but playing on a course in Southern California (or anywhere, i imagine) on a weekend... wouldnt want to slow down play by that long

What do you guys normally do in these situations?
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:30 PM
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Oh yeah, im asking because one guy I play with (one that hits the most OB or lost) insists he should just take a drop on the fairway and take one penalty stroke (but not loss of distance, which is horsedung, i say)... so that if he loses his tee shots, he gets a perfect lie in the fairway and is hitting 3 (instead of hitting 3 back at the tee box).
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:31 PM
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Just treat OB as a water hazard....if that's cool with your opponents. In a real match try to hit a provisional if you have doubts about finding it.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:36 PM
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Oh yeah, im asking because one guy I play with (one that hits the most OB or lost) insists he should just take a drop on the fairway and take one penalty stroke (but not loss of distance, which is horsedung, i say)... so that if he loses his tee shots, he gets a perfect lie in the fairway and is hitting 3 (instead of hitting 3 back at the tee box).
More guys than you'd imagine think that's the rule... 1 stroke penalty & drop approximately where you lost it. It's rarely realistic to go back so if you didn't hit a provisional, drop and you're hitting 4.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 08:45 PM
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Oh yeah, im asking because one guy I play with (one that hits the most OB or lost) insists he should just take a drop on the fairway and take one penalty stroke (but not loss of distance, which is horsedung, i say)... so that if he loses his tee shots, he gets a perfect lie in the fairway and is hitting 3 (instead of hitting 3 back at the tee box).
He drops it in the fairway???? I could see dropping it from approx where he lost it, but not in the fairway!!!!!
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Old April 26th, 2005, 09:10 PM
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He drops it in the fairway???? I could see dropping it from approx where he lost it, but not in the fairway!!!!!
haha yeah.. or maybe the light rough...
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Old April 26th, 2005, 09:11 PM
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More guys than you'd imagine think that's the rule... 1 stroke penalty & drop approximately where you lost it. It's rarely realistic to go back so if you didn't hit a provisional, drop and you're hitting 4.
if you play a provisional, deem the first ball lost, go to your provisional ball and youre hitting 4, right? just want to get it right.. thanks
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Old April 26th, 2005, 09:30 PM
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if you play a provisional, deem the first ball lost, go to your provisional ball and youre hitting 4, right? just want to get it right.. thanks
Yep. Cause the provisional counts as going back to the tee (or original spot) and hitting again.

1- goes OB
2- penalty back to original spot
3- provisional (or ball hit from original spot)
4- next shot from where provisional ended up.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 11:02 PM
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How about hazard (ie water)....go to the spot near the water, drop and youre hitting 3? Thanks a lot guys.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 11:16 PM
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How about hazard (ie water)....go to the spot near the water, drop and youre hitting 3? Thanks a lot guys.

that's the one I'm always tricked on, and I think alot of it has to do with how its marked (lateral hazard or not)

I believe (and always play it this way) that if you hit it in the water, you take the point where the ball entered the water, keep it between you and the hole (though I don't know, is that "distance wise" or in an actual straight line between you and the hole?), drop, and you're hitting three.

I had one the other day that I meant to bring up here but forgot...

Hitting from the tee on a long par 4/maybe par 5 that doglegged right around a pond, marked with red stakes, I hit a long slicing tee shot, bending toward the water... looking for a splash, I saw the ball hit and run along the bank, apparently outside the stakes, and trickle into the pond (I found it, about a foot into the water). My assumption was that since it was marked with red stakes, and it entered the water past the front edge of the pond (as witnessed by me seeing it trickle down the bank) that I dropped inside the stakes kind of diagonally back from where the ball entered. Took a penalty and hit 3 into the green.

Was I right?


(to be more specific, and give a better image, it was hole 12 on this course, the one down the lower right side of the card, my ball went in about due left of the bend in the dogleg, as marked by the line down the fairway)

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Old April 27th, 2005, 12:38 AM
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Rule 26-1 Water Hazards (Including lateral Water Hazards) explains everything fairly clearly. From your explanation, it sounds like you took the correct relief from a lateral water hazard when you dropped two club lengths, no nearer to the hole, from where your ball entered the lateral hazard. Adding your one stroke penalty, you were hitting three to the green.
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