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Old June 13th, 2005, 04:15 AM
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Had a rules issue at my local club. Watching the Grateful Dead movie tonight from Winterland in the early 70's (I was at the show) made me realize that the rules are just a framework upon which we play the game; they are not absolute. Sometimes, its best to just look away when violations occur. The game of life has no absolutes!! SHIVAS LIVES!!
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Old June 13th, 2005, 04:46 AM
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the rules are just a framework upon which we play the game; they are not absolute. Sometimes, its best to just look away when violations occur.
Unlike "the game of life" golf has rules and they are absolute. Harvey Peninck summed it up when his team asked if they could play "winter rules" - his response was "Yes, we can or we can play golf!"

Looking away is copping out and when do you call a player for a rules violation? Obviously if the guy hasn't got a clue you should point out to him that he is infringing and then call him - but looking away could affect the entire field, not only the group.
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Old June 13th, 2005, 08:02 AM
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Old June 15th, 2005, 01:29 AM
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Had a rules issue at my local club. Watching the Grateful Dead movie tonight from Winterland in the early 70's (I was at the show) made me realize that the rules are just a framework upon which we play the game; they are not absolute. Sometimes, its best to just look away when violations occur. The game of life has no absolutes!! SHIVAS LIVES!!
That's great and all. But if we played a money match and you broke the "framework upon which we play the game", I'd still have to kick your ***.
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Old June 15th, 2005, 09:54 PM
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I think a ball in a sand filled divot hole should get a drop. It is ground under repair!


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Old June 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM
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I think a ball in a sand filled divot hole should get a drop. It is ground under repair!


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I pretty much agree. But the real issue, is why in the **** are they filling the divot holes with sand during a tournament, let alone the US Open (they did in '99, hopefully they'll have better sense this year). It's bad enough to hit out of a divot, let alone one filled with sand. I think, that for the week of the US Open they can forget about maintaining the beautiful fairways of the course and just hope most divots are replaced by players. Please keep the sand out of the fairways. If not for the players, then for the fans who hate to watch a good player have to deal with a mini pot bunker in the middle of the darned fairway!
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Old June 15th, 2005, 11:16 PM
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It's EASIER to hit out of a sand filled divot than a deep unfilled one.
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Old June 15th, 2005, 11:27 PM
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If you do not respect the absolute rules of golf then you do not respect the game of golf.
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Old June 16th, 2005, 01:06 AM
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If you do not respect the absolute rules of golf then you do not respect the game of golf.
Well put, but it's certainly not disrespectful to discuss possible changes that could be made in the future (as long as they don't fundamentally alter the rules of the game). The sand filled divot thing is an issue about local rules that could be enacted by the tournament itself. And if it's an issue about allowing GPS systems to be in place I think that's OK too. But, while the rules are in place they must be followed. If you do not follow every single rule, then you are not playing Golf. You may be playing something very similar, but it is not golf. See Rule 1-3 about how no one can agree to not follow any rule. They're posted at www.usga.com if anyone doesn't believe me.
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