El GR Amigos, pse clarify the 'pick-'n-place' rule to yours truly. I've played with guys that do, and guys that don't do, this 'rule'.
It entails permissable in-play re-placement of the ball to a better spot - without forfeiting a shot - as long as:
- it's on the fairway. Re-placements in the rough, opposite fairway etc. not permitted
- You may not re-place the ball closer to the pin
- You have a club-length from your lie to 'play with'
It sure is helpful if your ball stops on/in a 'groundy' - or not-too-grassy -dunker, or someones divot, and the proverbial Green Hills of Ireland (lush green grass) is only an armslength away.
But I get the idea it may be a social, off-the-cuff rule???
Yep...it's a social, off-the-cuff practice. In strictly adhering to the rules, you don't touch the ball or bump it. Occasionally in tournament play, under extremely wet or muddy conditions the local rule of lift, clean, and place may be implemented.
It has become the accepted practice by a lot of weekenders, referred to as "winter rules".
The local rules on my course allow it during the rainy season when fairway hits can plug...it can be really sloppy and makes sense during this time of year...
May I add one other: a personal location for "put & place"...I will always place my ball on grass, not nearer the hole, if it comes to rest on bare ground or rocky area. I refuse to damage a club or cause bodily injury just for one swing. I've seen players wreck clubs this way..not me!
Played a course in Texas that fairways were half grass and half dirt & rock. Never played again. The course finally closed.
Played a course in Texas that fairways were half grass and half dirt & rock. Never played again. The course finally closed.
Where was that, just out of curiosity?
There are quite a few courses in Texas like that...out here in W Tx a lot of the little 9-hole tracks routinely play winter rules year round because of the lack of water. I've always considered clubs tools of the game and meant to be used regardless of the situation, therefore apt to get scuffed or even scarred. That said, however, if I had a new set of irons and was playing some Hard Pan Alley I'd probably do the same, for a while anyway.
We play wipe and clean during winter,the club i play with during summer play preferred lies,i don,t take advantage of that,only if i am in a big divot,otherwise during the summer i play the ball from where it lands,in winter we don,t pick a ball from the rough to clean
There are quite a few courses in Texas like that...out here in W Tx a lot of the little 9-hole tracks routinely play winter rules year round because of the lack of water. I've always considered clubs tools of the game and meant to be used regardless of the situation, therefore apt to get scuffed or even scarred. That said, however, if I had a new set of irons and was playing some Hard Pan Alley I'd probably do the same, for a while anyway.
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It was an old course at Killeen, TX. They have a really nice one now on/near the post...haven't played it yet. Will next trip tho. Generally play at The Cove, a nice public course, Copperas Cove, Tx.
We play wipe and clean during winter,the club i play with during summer play preferred lies,i don,t take advantage of that,only if i am in a big divot,otherwise during the summer i play the ball from where it lands,in winter we don,t pick a ball from the rough to clean
At the course I play at here in No. Cenral Alabama we play from where ever it lands except from the 2 ponds. It's a nice course with almost no dirt or rocky spots except on one hole under the trees..They put in about 3-4 million into it about 5 years ago.
November 12th, 2006, 10:09 AM
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