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Gopher Canyon GC

1st hole-Par 4-480 Yards

A hard first hole a straight opening hole with a beautiful lake going across the middle with trees surrrounding the sides.A few bunkers around the green.Some cabins around.A basic opening hole.

Go ahead and just post some ideas sure wel get some good ones

Well I sure wouldn't design one like the one i am playing tomorrow. At first glance it looks easy but every place a less than very good golfer would hit the ball there is trouble. Like trees in the middle of the fairway 200 yards out to hit over or go around. one with a giant fairway bunker 180 yards straight in front of you. Water hazards on 4 holes and one hole with 2 giant trees in the middle of the fairway guarding the green like uprights on a football field. And this is a 9 hole course where you go around twice from differant tee boxes.
It is the only Redneck course west of the Mississipi. Unlike other courses surrounded by beautiful homes this on has a trailer park around it. Bit it is the most affordable course in San Diego County where Green Fees range $68-$220 during prime time.
I have to work overtime to be able to play Golf so I play this one alot where during Prime time it is $27.
I sure wish the green fees were more reasonable because there are some beautiful courses around here.

Never thought much about this but it could sure turn into an interesting topic and one that will sure make me think a lot.

On first thought, it would be your basic par 72 with four par 5's, four par 3's and ten par 4's. The first, ninth, tenth and eighteenth holes would be par 4's but I would give the player a decent chance at birdie on the 9th and 18th holes. I don't really like those finishing holes where you have to fight for par. I like to leave the course feeling good about myself. I might also make the 17th a par 5 for this reason. It's a person downer when I don't have a good shot at birdie but still have 4 or 5 holes left to play.

As for location, I've done a lot of thought about this. There are many beautiful courses in Hawaii, many right on the ocean but they're pretty my non-existent on the island of Oahu. The two military courses (Mamala Bay and Kaneohe Klipper) have a number of holes right along the ocean but they are military courses. Then there's Waialae Country Club where they hold the Sony Open but that course only has one par 3 that goes along the ocean. Unfortunately, real estate on Oahu is incredibly expensive and it might not ever happen.

I would make all of the par 5's reacheable in two. Not saying I would make it easy but I don't like it when I go to the course knowing that from the set of tees I'm playing, I have no chance at reaching in two with a perfect drive and second shot.

On two, I would leave the front of the green fairly open to a shot so you could roll the ball up to the green. I'd put trouble to the sides and long.

On another par 5, I could front the green with a creek. I would make the player think with the tee shot. It would be a dogleg and a person who plays it straight on would probably not have a chance at hitting the green especially with the creek. A person who shapes their shot or cuts the dogleg off would have a chance to make it in 2.

With the last par 5, I would perhaps make the player think with their tee shot again. I could have a creek in the landing area of the tee shot. Really long hitters or those who want to go with it can go with driver and try to fly the creek. Those who don't will make sure to lay up short of the creek.

I also like driveable par 4's. One of the courses I play has a great one. It's a driveable dogleg par 4. If you cut the corner, you can drive the green. I've gotten up to the greenside bunker. Problem is, there is a large creek that runs along the right side of the hole so you're really risking it by going for the green. If you want to lay up to say, a hundred yards on that hole, you can hit something as short as a 6 iron off the tee.

I would design a golf course for the "average" golfer. A number of studies have shown that the average drive for a male is 195.

The longest par four would be 360 yards. The longest par three would be 150. the longest par five would be 425. The course from the "tips" would be around 5600 yards long. The fairways would be generous. However, the rough would be semi-thick and the greens would be fairly well protected.

I would design a course where the average golfer would have a chance to make a birdie. Long hitters and low handicappers might want to play this course, if they leave their woods at home and just play with their irons.

The other two tee boxes would be from 5300 and 4900.

I could get into details, but you get the idea.

Good subject, and one that I will give some more thought to. But for starters, I'd design the 1st hole as a Par 4 with a rather wide fairway and minimal trouble. I believe that if you get to the course, and your first two shots are well-struck and online, you should be rewarded with an opportunity for birdie or, at worst, par.

Jumping to the 18th, I have always been a fan of a 'risk / reward' Par 5 finishing hole. I would want a creek anywhere from 10-15 yards in front of and to one side of the green to ensure that anyone going for it on the 2nd shot would be required to strike it well in order to clear the hazard .. much like the 13th at Augusta. But for anyone deciding to lay up on the 18th, a well-struck 3rd shot would give you an excellent chance for birdie.

I would want my course to be one that would force you to think your way around it and would reward good decision-making.

- Bama

I also think the first hole should have a fairly wide open fairway.

A course I play often has a par 3 on the second hole. I don't really like this much. This course gets really crowded and is usually backed up for the first few holes. After you finish the first hole, you have an iron for your tee shot on the par 3. Then, you probably have to wait before you can tee off on #3. I find there is sometimes an incredible gap between hitting driver on the 1st hole and then on the 3rd hole. Don't really feel I can get in rhythm.

i would want a course somewhere in northern california rural setting with some nice homes around it i liked the trailer park one that would be good but some pretty good ideas...they have some courses on golden tee that would be fun courses