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THAT, is my GOAL.

Thanks, bump-n-run... I respect your appreciation for my game.

You nailed it. Easy hitting clubs, like the hybrids, are for the casual golfer... and those who don't, won't or can't take the necessary time to Learn How To Play the Great Game of Golf... the Magnificent Game of Skill.

Thanks too, for the challenge.




Now, back to why more pro's don't play hybrids.....

billybogey loves disagreeing with what every1 says. why so negative bro?

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that ok with you billybogey?
i know its new technology and all.

stop talking down other players. just because you think you're "gods gift to golf" doesnt mean that you can talk about some of the average golfers' flaws. tell you what, you think your so good, then why are'nt you a pro? you have issues.

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There is a purity in approaching the game with old style blades and persimmion woods...but I'll take the technology and Billy's money every time...

That being said I am in the market for some persimmion woods and dynapower 69 bulletbacks and a bull'seye putter...I get where BB is coming from, but don't agree in that very very good golfers play squareheaded drivers, hybrids, graphite shafts in irons and irons with sizeable offset and cavity backs...included in this number are a good amount of the pros on tour who wouldn't dream of jepordazing their scoring ability in favor of honoring the sancity of the magnificent game of skill...

Must be nice out there on planet Bogey...keep stopping by ...

Don't see how this article really relates to what you are saying. The point the article is trying to get across is what it would be if someone was to go and get the latest and greatest from any of the equipment manufs. out there. Has nothing to do with using those clubs due to lack of skill b/c of the technology behind them.

IMO technology is good b/c it broadens the appeal of golf as a sport to the masses. If all we had pertained only to the technology of decades ago, then golf wouldn't be the sport it is now. I really don't see how you can say pros who take advantage of the technology is lessoning their skill whatsoever. If you tell me that Mickelson, Vijay, etc have a Mastery of the Game, then I'd have to say your def. of mastery of the game is skewed. Were you can see these guys "skill" is in the short game, which IMO is were you can't hide your weaknesses.

Yes they may have 460cc drivers, hybrids, technology-filled balls, etc, but that doesn't mean the courses haven't evolved as well. Oakmont (as most US Opens are) shows that no matter how much tech. has come about (with concerns of distance as well), course management overrules. But if you really want to get back to how things were, I'm sure you don't have modern golf shoes, or that you don't have a modern grip on those irons, not using a modern ball but instead a wound balata, and most importantly, not using any of the typical modern positions in the golf swing.

Yes, technology may have gotten the casual golfer to hit the ball farther and straighter, but that doesn't mean it has decreased the skill level of the better players by any means. Distances may have increased but that's largely due to the ball and the stronger lofts on irons, not so much the technology behind the clubs themselves. I think the reasoning behind players using hybrids depends on the course set up. If the course is playing long, hard, and fast, you'll see more hybrids out in order to give them a chance to stop the ball on the green (especially the distance challenged of the group). The longer hitters wouldn't need hybrids per se and might follow Tiger in his footsteps in using a 2-iron to sting it down the fairway.

Personally, I still carry enough clubhead speed to effectively use my 3-iron and just prefer the way I can move the ball and the feel of it. Others may lack the clubhead speed to get the ball in the air to maximize the distance they are needing. My brother for instance lacks the clubhead speed and contact to have any kind of real gap between his 3/4/5 irons, in which a hybrid helps recreate the distance gaps he needed filled.

Wow.... just looked back and realized I started my own book

yeah i golfed with a guy yesterday who had a new hippo bybrid set and really didn't help him at all - think he said she shot around a 125.. still takes a lot of skill and a good swing.

All good points pgonza.

I don't have modern grips on my irons. They are the original 43 year old leather wrap grips. I do use the modern ball because balata is impossible to find. Yes, I would use balata too, but those durned things cut too easy.

Okay guys, my first post started in jest, a light hearted mockery towards new equipment. Some took me seriously, and after reading my post I can see why I was taken the wrong way. So I went with it, but it has gotten a little too serious.

So I'll back off and get back to why the best tour players don't use hybrids.

So, why don't many of the best tour players use hybrids?


Later!

43 year old leather wraps??? Have you ever thought of just tieing a stone to a stick?? Got any pictures of those clubs? Probally a lot like the ones I learned on from my grandfather old set of wilson;s...

Yes I do. I'll post some photos later on after work. I bought these irons a year ago from a friend. The grips were hard as stone, but with cleaning and conditioning the grips have softened to a very nice feel. Laugh all you want. These irons are in perfect shape. You would never know the age of them.

can't wait to see them! I actually have a full set of bamboo clubs that look brand new - once i get my basment finisheed i am gonna put them over my bar but actually played a few rounds with them when i was like 10 either they sucked or I did but did't work out to well - just glad i didn't damanage them!

That's cool! Now I want to see those! Hmmm.. I think we should start an "old club" thread with pics.

We are threadjacking like no other!

Wow that's great, I imagine if you join a group as a single, you'll be answering more question about those clubs than you play golf . Out of curiosity, have you gotten the loft, lie, checked? Would imagine by now you'd have to have those adjusted..... just make sure they don't make your PW 45*

Everyone talks about them. Matter of factly, the whole bag gets talked about. It's cool. I enjoy talking about the old stuf as well as me talking about their new stuff.

The lofts are 6 degrees higher than the modern day iron. So yes, I have to club up one or two clubs to make up for the "weaker" lofts. I have not had the lie checked yet. I found a pro shop locally that will check out everything.

With the narrow soles, I can't really make the lofts any stronger. There's barely any bounce on thse irons as it is. I maybe able to go 2 degrees max stronger. Any more and I'd go negative bounce, which would not work at all.

Okay guys.. I opened up a new thread titled Billy Bogey's Irons and Woods ... It's in the Golf Equipment folder, under The Clubhouse section.. I put a number of photos in there at different angles.

Hope you like my clubs.