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I'm looking to get a 2007 taylormade burner 3 hybrid and I want to know what stiffness I should get. My driver is stiff and 3 wood too.

My question is, if your shaft is too stiff, will it draw or fade.

And if it is too weak, will it draw or fade

IMHO I don't believe it will do either. People say it will, but I really don't think it will. If you hit the ball straight, it will go straight

I think swing speed and strength are variables to consider and also kickpoint

More speed you swing with and torque you generate the stiffer the shaft you want. I think if you generate a lot of club head speed and have a lite flex the club will twist and you will get inconsistent results rather than a predominant draw or fade .

Kickpoint is where the shaft bends. The lower the kickpoint the higher the ball flight. They usually come w/ low/ mid and high kickpoint.

It is going to be highly dependent on the shaft, and specifically the torque of the shaft. In general, a more flexible shaft will also have a higher torque value, which if you overpower it, especially with a fast transition, will leave the face open because the shaft just don't have time to catch up.

The opposite effect -- a too stiff and too low of torque shaft -- isn't as pronounced as the too weak and too high of torque shaft. Simply because a shaft that is too stiff will respond to the slower movements - there isn't the same lag as a too weak shaft will have.

Now, the above are generalities, because today's technologies allow shafts with weak flex and low torque and shafts with stiff flex and high torque to be made. So, the above doesn't always hold. Also, if you get the tempo down right, even with a high swing speed, you can still hit a weaker flex shaft well. I have a friend who has a very high swing speed, 105-110 mph, who strongly prefers most company's regular shafts. He likes the feel of most regular shafts the best and the regular shaft forces him to swing with good tempo.

The above anecdote is mainly to tell you that this sort of stuff, while there is a science to fitting a shaft, there is still a lot of guesswork. For most people, feel is the biggest thing that determines whether they like a shaft or not.

So, a few things: 1) find out the recommended swing speeds for the shaft you are looking at and 2) as much as possible, see if you can't swing the two different shafts side by side and compare them. If that isn't a choice, most people should err on the side of lower flex. Ultimately, it also isn't that hard to change a shaft, too, so even if the one you get 1st isn't perfect, you can change it out reasonably cheaply and quickly.

Thanks and I have another question.

What do you guys think of the Titleist 909H hybrid. I like that one too but it is 70 more dollars.

I'm going to have to demo both at one time to see which one I like better