Are your instructors pga pros? If you have only played for six months and have already shot in the 90's then that is pretty good. Golf takes time to develop the game. the instructors you have gone to may be good and know what they are talking about but the way they word things may not work for you. You can say the same thing ten different ways but one way just makes more sense. Also, I have a little more faith in my instructor because he has previously played at a +3 level, meaning he used to give the course 3 strokes. I like someone who is able to do what they are talking about. Ask your instructor what their handicap is and also what is the best handicap that they have achieved. If they have not gotten down to a five at some point i might go with someone else. How can a person explain what they cannot do?
I like someone who is able to do what they are talking about. Ask your instructor what their handicap is and also what is the best handicap that they have achieved. If they have not gotten down to a five at some point i might go with someone else. How can a person explain what they cannot do?
If that were the case no PGA pros would have instructors. Because an instructor does not have the physical skills to play to a certain level doesn't mean he/she doesn't have the knowledge and teaching ability to get you to that level. If you're learning, improving, and you are comfortable with the methods used, it shouldn't matter what your instructor shoots. JMO
If that were the case no PGA pros would have instructors. Because an instructor does not have the physical skills to play to a certain level doesn't mean he/she doesn't have the knowledge and teaching ability to get you to that level. If you're learning, improving, and you are comfortable with the methods used, it shouldn't matter what your instructor shoots. JMO
I did not say your instructor must be better then you I just believe that in order for them to explain the golf swing they need to have felt the golf swing. THere is always an occasional exception to the rule. There are certain ways a golf swing feels that need to be explained. I dont believe explanations have conviction unless they are believed. How can you believe in a golf swing you have never made? I am not saying that an instructor who is NO LONGER capable of swinging a club cannot teach, if he/she was previously capable of doing it that person has felt it. THe golf swing is a feeling, how can you explain that feeling if you have never felt it?
I see your point, but a golf swing feels different to different players. What "feels" right for you may not feel right for me. I guess the secret is to find the instructor that feels what you feel when you've done it right.
shootin4par i see where you are coming from but my friends uncle is a teaching pro and i golfed with him last year and he has the funkiest swing you have ever seen and he looked to be about an 8 handicap or so, maybe he had a bad day though. But was supposed to be a very good teaching pro and gave me a few good tips for posture and stance and stuff. He gave my other friend a little swing lesson, he had a very weird swing and he fixed it right up.
What you are saying is that Tiger Woods shouldn't have an instructor cause they cannot beat them, i know you said that that isn't what you meant, but teachings pros do not have time to work on their game. My high school golf coach cannot beat me and he taught me to swing better just a few days ago, he knows what he is doing for sure though.
(he is over 55 though and only has one thumb so that may be his excuse as well, he probably was very good back in the day. Still is pretty good though.)
First off, hello to all in the form. I will admit that this is a pretty sorry topic for a first post, but I'm pretty much at the end of my rope.
I took up golf this past Easter and have been quite devoted to it ever since. I go to the range most everyday hitting 150 to 300 practice shots a day have worked with two different pros, and most every waking moment that I'm not at work is spent on practicing my golf swing. I have resonably decent equipment (Adams tightlie irons, and a cobra driver) and the pro who sold me my irons even came down to the range to help me out.
The problem is that there has been very little progress in the past six months. When I first started I could hit about 20% of my balls cleanly and have them land in play, now six months later, when I go to the course I'm lucky to keep the ball in play with 20% of my shots being clean. I seriously doubt that the ranger will allow me to stay on the course once the season begins as there will be people on most every tee and playing through me as I hack balls out of bounds and slowdown played to a snail's pace will no longer be an option. At this point, all evidence points to a general lack of athletic ability. I am 39 years old and in reasonable physical shape, but don't seem to possess the hand eye coordination or talent necessary to achieve a decent golf swing. I don't expect to be Tiger Woods after only six months, but shouldn't I at least be able to keep the ball in play well enough to enjoy my round by this point.
I often golf with people who say that they only go out three or four times a year yet seem capable of advancing the ball well enough to play. The question then I guess is, should I just assumed that I lack the athletic ability, which is where all the evidence points, or is six months to little time to expect any progress.
I guess that no amount practice in the world will ever turne a pygmy into an NFL football player and I'm starting to think that the same is true where golf is concerned in my case.
This is what I find all the time. Practice hitting golf balls does not improve you. Learning how to swing a golf club improves you
If you would like to correspond with me, and follow what I have to say, I believe you could improve dramatically. It has nothing to do with athleticism although that helps. Little ole ladies of 80 can learn to swing as can kids of 4.
The reason I say to correspond is that I would need feedback from you so the help was understood and appropriate and that is difficult here.
I don't mean to insult you johnny but looking at your posts, you sound eerily similar to a certain poster from the boards many of us came from. I hope I'm wrong about who you are though...
If you meant this like I hope you did, then it is funny! I've jokingly told many of my friends to "give it up" when I hear them complaining about their game. Maybe a would've made this a moot point.
It sounds like Murph is frustrated and looking for answers anywhere he can find them. We've all been there (you too I bet). Golf humor can sometimes get us started in the right direction if we take it for what it is.....you were being funny....weren't you?
Stay away from those other forums...they're bad for you!!!!
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Did you hit it any better when you were with the pro than when you were just out banging balls by yourself ? If yes, than save your money on just banging balls and spend it on lessons exclusively. If no, then golf may not be for you. Have you played any other sports that required hand-eye coordination with any success ? If yes, then there is no reason that you cannot become reasonably proficient at golf. If no, then again then golf may not be for you. But 6 months is nothing when it comes to learning the game, especially at 39. You already made the investment in equipment... I'd give it a year or 2. Good Luck !
If you meant this like I hope you did, then it is funny! I've jokingly told many of my friends to "give it up" when I hear them complaining about their game. Maybe a would've made this a mute point.
It sounds like Murph is frustrated and looking for answers anywhere he can find them. We've all been there (you too I bet). Golf humor can sometimes get us started in the right direction if we take it for what it is.....you were being funny....weren't you?
Stay away from those other forums...they're bad for you!!!!
i was being sarcastic of course.
because i know this guy doesnt want to quit. he's searching now and why not be blount and just say "yes give up now!!!11"
because i know this guy doesnt want to quit. he's searching now and why not be blount and just say "yes give up now!!!11"
We share a common sense of humor because "give it up" would've been my reply....if I knew Murph personally. I hope he sees the humor in it and gets started fixing his game.
I certainly took no offense to your comment Johnny and actually got a bit of a chuckle out of it. After all I pretty much inform the guys at the cart barn after every round that I am quitting this stupid game. Of course as I am walking away out come the words "see ya next week"
I must have given up the game at least a hundred times in the past six months alone. I guess its a kind of veiled threat to the golf gods that if they don't start to lighten up they wont have me to kick around anymore.
I've been trying to quit for over 27 years now...lol. Well, maybe not when I was a kid but ever since I graduated from college. Instead, I just keep getting deeper involved with the game.
Look I just started too and am enduring the same frustrations as you. You obviously lack confidence and I encountered the same when I took my "excellent" game from from the range to the tee.
Nerves, adrenalin. We have to learn to work through or more aptly with the emotions. Golf mimicks life in many ways.
Look for an easier track to play. Hit from the ladies tees. Play by yourself a few rounds. Use an easier club, just get it on the fairway and forward.
I'm finding we have to master at least one club to have any sort of fun. I feel confident with my pitching wedge and 9 iron, that's it. The rest are 50% on a good day..even at the range<G>
Have fun and use less expensive balls. I lost $20 of Titleists Monday<g>
September 7th, 2004, 10:33 PM
I just believe that in order for them to explain the golf swing they need to have felt the golf swing. THere is always an occasional exception to the rule. There are certain ways a golf swing feels that need to be explained. I dont believe explanations have conviction unless they are believed. How can you believe in a golf swing you have never made? I am not saying that an instructor who is NO LONGER capable of swinging a club cannot teach, if he/she was previously capable of doing it that person has felt it. THe golf swing is a feeling, how can you explain that feeling if you have never felt it?
would've made this a moot point.
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