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Old May 2nd, 2006, 02:43 PM
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Driver loft question.....

I came across a good deal on a Callaway 454 HT driver with 15 degrees of loft. I currently play a 10.5 degree Taylormade R5 Dual and with all the talk recently about having sufficient loft with the larger headed drivers, I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience playing a driver with 15 degrees of loft. Thanks.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 02:54 PM
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I came across a good deal on a Callaway 454 HT driver with 15 degrees of loft. I currently play a 10.5 degree Taylormade R5 Dual and with all the talk recently about having sufficient loft with the larger headed drivers, I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience playing a driver with 15 degrees of loft. Thanks.

What is your swing speed at/around? How high do you hit the ball with your current driver? Anything under 80 or so mph, i'd say go for 15ish*. @ 85-90, maybe 12*. Then again, a low ball hitter may benefit from a 15*, even at a higher SS. That said, a higher lofted club should theoretically create more backspin than the lower lofted, which would inhibit roll somewhat... I play a 9.5 with a mid-high launch shaft - around 100 mph SS. Try one out on a launch monitor, see how it compares to your current one.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 02:55 PM
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While loft is good, too much loft is not. 15* is high for a driver. That is what an average 3 wood would be. Usually that high of a loft is for a womans or seniors driver, basically people who have a slow swing speed and have a hard time getting the ball in the air. I would say unless you fall in one of those two catagories, 15 degrees would be too high.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 03:05 PM
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I'm guessing if you really play to an 8 handicap, 15* in your driver will be way too much.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 04:00 PM
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There has been alot of discussion about driver lofts and kick points on the shaft..... i am interested in trying a high loft club with a high kickpoint, theoretically there shouldnt be a loss of distance but the club should be much easier to hit.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 04:05 PM
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How is your current driver's ball flight? 15* sounds a little high..... best thing you can do if you are unsure is to try and get to a launch monitor to see what your numbers are.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 04:20 PM
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Having the Right Amount of Driver Loft: How Important Is It?

There is a lot of talk these days about driver loft – in golf magazines, on the internet, etc – it is certainly one of the hottest topics in golf equipment. If you have paid any attention to equipment discussion over the past year or so, you know that you’re being told to get a driver with more loft. While this is true, it is important for us to understand why more loft is going to help you with that brand new “uber” driver.

The modern 460cc driver – due to its very high vertical center-of-gravity, combined with the lower-spin, multi-layer golf balls of today – launch the ball lower and with less spin that driver-ball combinations of the past. If I was playing with a driver with 9 degrees of loft in 300cc driver model, I would probably want something in the 12 degree range in a 460cc model.

The fact is that 75% of golfers with a 460cc driver have one that has too little loft for their game. What’s interesting is that at least half of the golfers that come into our headquarters think that they hit the ball “too high” with their driver. Our view of what type of ball flight we should expect from a 460cc driver is skewed – what most of us call “high” ball flight, in all actuality, is not. Our expectations of what the proper ball flight should look like from off the tee need to change.

Very simply, the proper driver ball flight is not “out and up”, but rather, “up and out”. Tour players have gained 35 yards over the past couple of decades off the tee by getting high launch combined with a low spin rate. The proper driver ball flight should look much like a rainbow – up quickly and then soaring “out”. Our goal is to achieve this ball flight by getting the right launch angle combined with the ideal spin rate for our ball speed.

How important is achieving the proper launch angle and spin rate? Below is a chart of distances for a ball traveling at a constant 125 miles per hour (about the speed for the average male golfer) at various launch angles and spin rates1:

Ball Speed Launch Angle Spin Rate Air Distance

125 mph 10.5 Degrees 2700 RPMs 194 Yards
“” 11.5 2900 196
“” 12.5 3100 199
“” 13.5 3300 200
“” 14.5 3500 201
“” 15.5 3700 201
“” 16.5 3900 201
“” 17.5 4100 200
“” 18.5 4300 199

The total difference between the longest and shortest drives on this chart is 7 yards – which really isn’t all that much. However, we should keep in mind that not only does that 16.5 degree launch angle achieve the most distance, it is also going to be the most accurate of the drives that travel 201 yards. Why? Because the more backspin we impart on the ball, the straighter it is going to fly. It is for the same reason that you hit your pitching wedge straighter than your six iron – the wedge puts more backspin on the ball (due to its higher loft angle). The same principle applies to the driver – the more backspin the ball launches with, the straighter it is going to fly.

So, at 16.5 degrees, we have the best combination of air-distance and accuracy possible when launching the ball at 125 miles-per-hour. What does this mean for you? Most golfers walk into our headquarters with a 460cc driver that has no more than 10 degrees of loft – and rarely launch the ball any higher than 12 or 13 degrees / 3100 rpm. This results in drives with too little spin, too low of a launch angle, and less accuracy and distance than would be obtained with a driver with more loft – say 12 degrees or so.

So how do we find the driver launches the ball at the right launch angle and spin rate for our game? Get fitted by a professional that utilizes a launch monitor (which should not be confused with a simulator). A true ball launch monitor measures the characteristics of a ball’s actual flight by the use of radar, laser, or high-speed cameras. A fitting professional with a launch monitor can very easily fit you for a driver that is going to give you the best combination of launch angle and spin rate for your game. And the slower your swing, the more impact the right driver can have on your tee game. Every golfer should make a point to have their current driver evaluated by a professional with a launch monitor2 – but it is especially critical for slower swing speeds, where achieving the proper launch angle can have a dramatic effect on distance.

Seek out a fitting professional that utilizes a launch monitor and get fitted for a new driver – it can have a dramatic impact on your accuracy and distance off the tee.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 04:21 PM
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What is distance with 7 iron? PW?

What is your current driver?

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Old May 2nd, 2006, 05:36 PM
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I'm sorry if I was not clear with my question....

I was just wondering if anyone is playing a driver with that much loft.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 06:49 AM
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I currently play a 14 degree KZG gemini that i was custom fitted for. All I can say is best move I ever made. My swing is a repeatable 90mph but a little flat. With the proper shaft and loft I noticed a signifigant difference in ball flight and carry distance.
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