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Old December 5th, 2006, 08:29 AM
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Need a little help finishing out my new set

Hi all,

I have been reading here for a few months and get great info. I was hoping someone had some input for me on this. I started playing in June of 2006 and so far my best score is a 103. I had a cheap starter set and i have started upgrading my stuff.

right now this is the stuff i have or have ordered:

Driver: Callaway X460
Hybrid Callaway X 3H
Irons Callaway Big Bertha 2006 3-PW
Sand Wedge: Cleveland 588 56 degree
Putter: Ping Craz-E g5i

What do you think i should get to finish out the set? Do i need a 3 or a 5 wood? Am i better off with a 4H hybrid and a 60 degree lob wedge?
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Old December 5th, 2006, 08:41 AM
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I would probably get a 5 wood instead of a 3 wood. That is just personally though. Not long ago I was around your score and it was a lot easier to hit a 5 wood off the deck than it was for me to hit a 3 wood off the deck. As for a wedge, I have a 60* and love it.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 09:47 AM
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Hi all,

I have been reading here for a few months and get great info. I was hoping someone had some input for me on this. I started playing in June of 2006 and so far my best score is a 103. I had a cheap starter set and i have started upgrading my stuff.

right now this is the stuff i have or have ordered:

Driver: Callaway X460
Hybrid Callaway X 3H
Irons Callaway Big Bertha 2006 3-PW
Sand Wedge: Cleveland 588 56 degree
Putter: Ping Craz-E g5i

What do you think i should get to finish out the set? Do i need a 3 or a 5 wood? Am i better off with a 4H hybrid and a 60 degree lob wedge?


I thought you said you upgraded your stuff JK Callaway isnt bad!! I waould try the 5 wood or maybe a 4 wood
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Old December 5th, 2006, 09:50 AM
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I thought about suggesting a 4 wood but I figured it'd probably be easier to find a 5 wood he likes, a little bigger selection.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 09:51 AM
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Yea usually you can find an 18 degree of just about everything.....Its just a 15 degree or lower might be hard to hit for someone just starting out... A 4 wood is going to have a bit more loft for more forgiveness.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 10:11 AM
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With the starter set (Ram) I never used the 3 or 5 woods. If i didnt hit driver (im lefty and i slice the ball most of the time) i would use the Hybrid club off the tee. It usually went straight. With the x460 i drive the ball much better, it has a 2 degree closed face which helps and i took a few lessons. I had a hard time hitting the 4 iron so thats why i was considering a 4H. I would not use the 3 or the 5 wood for anything but off the tee, thats why i was considering hybrid clubs more then the woods.

good info though, more suggestions are always welcome.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Yea if you like the hybrids than that wouldnt be a bad way to go...Im sure eventually you will like hitting a fairway wood off of the ground though...Just make sure you look at some woods that might have an offset or maybe a closed face like you said.....
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Old December 5th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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Assuming there are some clubs in your bag with which you can keep the ball in play, I would keep the current configuration and add a gap wedge. The loft on your PW is probably around 48*, your SW is a 56*, which in my mind leaves a gaping 8* hole in your set. Therefore you need something in the 51*-52* range to plug it. According to Pelz, 80% of shots lost to par occur within 100 yards of the green. If that's anywhere close to correct in your case, and it probably is, it just makes sense to focus your attention there first.

As an added thought, remember that three good six irons will get you to almost any par five in regulation, while an out-of-bounds drive just sets you up for a really big number.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 11:38 AM
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Since i took a few lessons and got my new driver i have been Driving the ball much better. I hit more fairways and the shots that are not on the fairway are very playable. I am good for 1-2 really really bad drives per round.

Where i seem to struggle the most is around the greens like someone said. I am good for alot of 3 putts. I need to work on knowing what clubs i hit what distances too. Next time i am at the range i need to write that stuff down.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:04 PM
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When you're at the range don't rely solely on the distance. The distance you hit your 8 iron on the range with those ****** range balls could be a lot different than the balls you're actually playing in a round. When you're on the range, try and gauge the difference between each club so that you can take that over to the course.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:15 PM
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My suggestion is don't buy anything else. Play with that set up and figure out what clubs you need. Fill in from your other set until you know you need another wedge, or a fairway wood, or whatever. Then buy what you need, not what you're guessing at.

Yeah, there will be times you'll have to lay up or play the wrong club. But, this way you'll know what you need.

Just my .02.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:26 PM
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Since i took a few lessons and got my new driver i have been Driving the ball much better. I hit more fairways and the shots that are not on the fairway are very playable. I am good for 1-2 really really bad drives per round.
Pelz also notes that the average player generally shoots 4-5 under his handicap on all but two or three disaster holes in a given round. (I'm not really a Pelz apologist, I just play one on the internet. ) The trick is to eliminate those. Are those "really really bad" drives leading to mushrooming scores? And would a lesser length club lead to overall more consistency? Your call, of course.

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Where i seem to struggle the most is around the greens like someone said.
That being the case, why not add two wedges into the mix...say, a 52* and a 60*?

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I am good for alot of 3 putts. I need to work on knowing what clubs i hit what distances too. Next time i am at the range i need to write that stuff down.
Sounds like you have an intelligent game plan going. I agree with not getting too hung up on distances at the range, but otherwise keep it up.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:32 PM
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My suggestion is don't buy anything else....
Bah...it's Christmas, buying shhh, I mean, stuff is fun.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
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I would honestly evaluate the yardages that I hit each club. Take some time at the range and look to see where in your yardages there is a gap of more than 10-15 yards. That is where I would start adding clubs. Large gaps in wedges will cost you more stroke wise than large gaps between long clubs.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 02:39 PM
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Good advise by all.

I know i need to take more lessons. When i get out with these new clubs i will have a better idea about what i need to work on. I am going from a set that cost $150 for everything to something that is over $1000 right now. I know the clubs wont fix all but i am hoping i have some more consistency and confidence with them.
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