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Old April 4th, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Golf Balls???

Which major manufacturers have the best balanced balls ?

Dave Pelz, a former NASA scientist, states there are numerous reasons why putts are missed, one of which is an unbalanced ball. He said that most balls are poorly balanced.

I agree with him and i remember that my grandpa used to balance golf balls with absent salt and water... does any body still do that?

Also found http://www.perfectball.com online says that it will find the balance point of any golf ball. They even have a video http://www.technasonic.com/flash_video/index2.htm

So i emailed them asking about this... and they said that it really works and i gotta try it out for my self.. and if i dont like i can bring it back ..

gave me a %15 off... with this code: AD15PROMO

Does any body have this Check-Go Sweet Spot Finder? If so have you used it ? Does it work as they say in the ad?
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Old April 4th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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Frank Thomas, golf guru who invented the graphite shaft and perfected the stimpmeter, says that the golf balls of today (except the very cheap ones) are already well balanced. I tried the Check-Go and didn't notice any difference...except having a black line around the circumference of the ball.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 01:46 AM
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I, like you, was interested in purchasing one a few months back. But, I did some searching and read some reviews and most of them were neutral or negative. Nobody said it helped them do any better or worse. The one thing most players liked was the fact that you have a line to aid with putting, but thats about it.

Also, a few reviews said that the thing was complete **** because what the person would do was take a ball put it in and mark it. Then he'd stop it and then spin it up again. If you do this you'll find that the second line is nowhere near the first line. That goes to show you that its really not 'balancing the ball' but rather just spinning it on some axis for you to put a straight line on it. If it were reallying balancing the ball then the line should fall on the exact same spot ever time....

BTW, instead of buying this, check this out, it does the same thing but is cheaper: http://www.golfsmith.com/products/247397

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Old April 5th, 2007, 11:23 AM
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I smell SPAM...especially since this is the 2nd forum I've read the exact same post from the exact same poster and both times it was their 1st post.

SPAM, SPAM, SPAM
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Old April 5th, 2007, 02:10 PM
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Not spam... just new to golf.. doing some research ...I have heared mixed reviews on different threads... however, Im thinking if i should get this Check Go thing ... or just a Ball Liner... cuase i like the idea of having a line on the ball.. helps aim... and see if i hit it right. also talked to a few people and they said Titleist Pro V1 are the best and i notice it has a line on it with arrows... which is how you need to T it up...
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Old April 5th, 2007, 03:22 PM
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No problem then. But, a lot of times when you see identical 1st posts on multiple sites appearing to promote a product, it is spam...hence my comment.

Glad you replied and hope you'll stay around and contribute!

As far as input, I couldn't tell you. The thing just looks too gimmicky to me.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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Cyberalen; Welcome to the site.
To answer your question, YES, I have a Check & Go ball spinner, and YES it does work. Contrary to what someone else posted, I can mark a ball with the ball spinner and repeat the spinning and have the ball come up the same way most of the time. I'd say I get the second line right on top of the first line 90 % of the time. As for what Frank Thomas says, that's a bunch of media nonsense. I also float golf balls, and I hardly ever find a ball that will not float the same way every time. Mark the top of the ball with a small dot, move it around in the water ,and it comes back up on top every time. I've tested ProV1's and all the rest, and they all do the same thing. The only ball that came close was the old Wislon Staff True line of balls. And the only reason they did well is that all three parts of the ball, cover, inner layer, and core, wher all made so that the density of each was the exact same value. That eliminated the problem of the core not being exactly centered in the ball.
Haveing a line on the ball also helps off the tee. When I tee up my ball, I align the line on the ball to the flag or the middle of the fairway, if that's where I want the ball to go. Then when I address the ball, I can line up to the line on the ball. I don't have of find a spot on the ground and aim at that. Having the iine aligned to your target, has also been shown to let the ball fly a bit straighter off the tee. Having used the Check & Go, I wouldn't think of playing a ball that I haven't spun up and marked. Using the line to aim your putts is just one reason to use the ball spinner. And NO, I don't work for the company, never have. never will.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 08:43 PM
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Cyberalen; Welcome to the site.
To answer your question, YES, I have a Check & Go ball spinner, and YES it does work. Contrary to what someone else posted, I can mark a ball with the ball spinner and repeat the spinning and have the ball come up the same way most of the time. I'd say I get the second line right on top of the first line 90 % of the time. As for what Frank Thomas says, that's a bunch of media nonsense. I also float golf balls, and I hardly ever find a ball that will not float the same way every time. Mark the top of the ball with a small dot, move it around in the water ,and it comes back up on top every time. I've tested ProV1's and all the rest, and they all do the same thing. The only ball that came close was the old Wislon Staff True line of balls. And the only reason they did well is that all three parts of the ball, cover, inner layer, and core, wher all made so that the density of each was the exact same value. That eliminated the problem of the core not being exactly centered in the ball.
Haveing a line on the ball also helps off the tee. When I tee up my ball, I align the line on the ball to the flag or the middle of the fairway, if that's where I want the ball to go. Then when I address the ball, I can line up to the line on the ball. I don't have of find a spot on the ground and aim at that. Having the iine aligned to your target, has also been shown to let the ball fly a bit straighter off the tee. Having used the Check & Go, I wouldn't think of playing a ball that I haven't spun up and marked. Using the line to aim your putts is just one reason to use the ball spinner. And NO, I don't work for the company, never have. never will.
Good review. I was just posting what i had heard/read in the past.

And out of curiosity what is this ball floating in abscent salt and water thing? Whats the point and how exactly do you do it? Is it worth doing for every ball?
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Old April 5th, 2007, 09:27 PM
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Unlike OnePutt, I didn't notice any difference with the device. I don't understand the "media nonsense" comment. Frank Thomas's comment was an answer to a question someone posted on his website--no media involved. People send in questions, he answers them.

If the Check and Go is so good why don't tournament players use it?
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Old April 5th, 2007, 11:32 PM
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I think that the question here is really one of magnitude. It is almost impossible to mass produce objects and have every component be exactly the same density. There are tolerances, and I suspect that the tolerances are pretty tight, but I also suspect that they are not exactly all the same value. I have no doubt that when floating a ball or using the spin thingy that indeed there are non-uniform densities in the ball. But, will it be significant? Unlikely. I doubt that the nonuniformity of the density is more than 1% at the most. Probably on the order of 0.1% or smaller. If the balls had a significant chance of coming out grossly unbalanced, the manufacturers would be testing each one, and rejecting the unbalanced ones. Nevertheless, even though the differences are small, they will be picked up by the float test or the spin test. But, how much they will affect the ball? Not much would be my guess. The old wound balls would have some significant imbalances from time to time. Not every wound ball, but the errors in manufacturing were greater. The errors in manufacuturing todays solid balls are much less.

Here is the study that needs to be performed: Lines need to be drawn on the equator of 20 balls. 10 of which have been spun, 10 of which have had the line drawn on randomly. And then see if there is any significant differences between the two. (like over 1000 putts... it is going to take a lot to be statistically significant) My guess is that the line as an alignment aid and confidence booster is the overwhleming majority of the improvement people see.

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Old April 5th, 2007, 11:53 PM
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And out of curiosity what is this ball floating in abscent salt and water thing?
That's epsom salt...helps the ball float...heavy side down.

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Old April 6th, 2007, 01:57 AM
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That's epsom salt...helps the ball float...heavy side down.

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AHH, that makes sense, make the water more dense to float. but what would the advantage of doing that be? Do you then mark the top of the ball and then once you know the top you use that to draw a line halway down the ball from there?

like some of the posters above said, i think that the line itself would help you out much more than the 'balancing' of a ball
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