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Old October 18th, 2007, 09:08 PM
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King cobra l4v?

Cobra Golf Introduces King Cobra L4V Driver @ Golf Gear Review

Anyone know anything about this? Is this going to be the best driver when it comes out? and should I get this over the callaway ft-i
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Old October 19th, 2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

without being rude here...dont ask..try.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 08:58 AM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

.830 COR is .830 COR is .830 COR. Every driver has the exact same maximum ball speed, otherwise it would be listed as non-conforming by the USGA and R&A. There is no 'best' driver. Pretty much what GolfMe is saying, there is only 'best for you', but there is no 'best' anymore -- despite what the advertising agents say.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 11:39 AM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

I agree, a golf club expert was quoted as saying he was more concerned with the shaft specs conforming to the golfer than the driver head. There are so many conforming, good quality drivers out there that getting a good match between the club head, shaft and most importantly the golfers swing is the key.

IMO - Cobra makes quality drivers. They are easier for off the rake purchases because the match their models to swing speed. If you are honest with yourself on your swing and don't want to mess with a shaft upgrade, try them. Demo first and remember, no two drivers are alike even if they are the same model and specs.
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In the past, I tended to fade Cobra products, but I will continue to try them at demo days.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 12:09 PM
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I demoed the Cobra LD, and I really liked it. Long and easy to work the ball left and right. That said, you need to DEMO, DEMO, DEMO, and then DEMO some more. Hit every driver you can, and buy the one YOU hit the best. And don't buy one off E-bay after you DEMO and find what you hit best, Sure you may save some money, but it's not the exact same club you hit well. The shaft will be different, the shaft will be install different, and the head may be a little different. All the same components, don't add up to the same club when they're assembled. If you find a driver you hit really well, BUY THAT ONE, not one like it somewhere else.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

People can say what they want about heads being maxed out and all heads are equal...IMO Cobra makes HOT heads...the ball is noticably longer even with the same shaft installed (I oughta know, I rotate my shafts like changing socks...) I just ordered a Cobra xspeed LD...will pick it up once I am back in the states in about 3 weeks...
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Old October 19th, 2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

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Cobra Golf Introduces King Cobra L4V Driver @ Golf Gear Review

Anyone know anything about this? Is this going to be the best driver when it comes out? and should I get this over the callaway ft-i
Give it 10 minutes i am pretty sure there will be another Cobra or Taylor Made driver along promising all sorts of miracles.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 02:26 PM
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People can say what they want about heads being maxed out and all heads are equal...IMO Cobra makes HOT heads...the ball is noticably longer even with the same shaft installed (I oughta know, I rotate my shafts like changing socks...) I just ordered a Cobra xspeed LD...will pick it up once I am back in the states in about 3 weeks...
Ah, the heads are tested in isolation and all under the exact same conditions. The big variable is you and your swing. If you just happen to swing a club better, for whatever reason, you will get more out of it. Maybe you get less spin off a Cobra head than a TaylorMade, maybe the sweet spot is lower or higher on the face than the other one, etc. There are a lot of different reasons why you could be getting more out of Cobra than a different brand.

But, at their maximum, every driver head is equal. There was a time, like when Callaway introduced it's Big Bertha that they could say "this driver goes farther" because under equal conditions, it did go farther than any of it's competitors. But, today, every manufacturer is right at the legal limit, and hence are all equal in terms of maximum performance. That doesn't necessarily say what any one individual person is going to get out of them -- and so we're back to the advice, demo, demo, and demo some more.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 07:43 PM
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Ah, the heads are tested in isolation and all under the exact same conditions. The big variable is you and your swing. If you just happen to swing a club better, for whatever reason, you will get more out of it. Maybe you get less spin off a Cobra head than a TaylorMade, maybe the sweet spot is lower or higher on the face than the other one, etc. There are a lot of different reasons why you could be getting more out of Cobra than a different brand.

But, at their maximum, every driver head is equal. There was a time, like when Callaway introduced it's Big Bertha that they could say "this driver goes farther" because under equal conditions, it did go farther than any of it's competitors. But, today, every manufacturer is right at the legal limit, and hence are all equal in terms of maximum performance. That doesn't necessarily say what any one individual person is going to get out of them -- and so we're back to the advice, demo, demo, and demo some more.
I know in theory you are correct, and you could be right as far as Cobra fits me, my setup and swing better than other heads...I suppose this points to the value of a good fitting, but I am still convinced that there are heads out there more equal than others...an example in a parallel universe would be in motorsport, where in Moto GP and F1 the same teams dominate every week despite the highly regulated maxed out technology...in part they have the best operators and this makes a difference, but the difference between the best teams and the worst is considerable even though they have access to the same maximum limits...all drivers are made to the maximum limits allowable, but some are definetly made "better" and I feel that Cobra is one of those that performs a little better than most regardless of equal specifications...
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: King cobra l4v?

I am going to go out on a limb and say the L4V will take after the HS9 and be a flop...

The Speed LD and Speed Pro have taken off very well. I don't think too many people will jump ship on their 2007 model Cobra and buy a L4V. Also, I don't think it will have any tour representation. Villegas, JB Holmes, and Ogilvy are still playing Speed Pro drivers, at least up to the last PGA Tour event they played.

The "X" model is only available in 9.0 degree and X-Stiff isn't even available. Why make an e"X"treme speed club that isn't available in X-stiff flex??? IMO, Cobra severely limits their customers since they don't support custom shaft options like their sister Acushnet company, Titleist.

I like Cobra. Their drivers feel and sound explosive and perform well. I think they would do themselves a world of good by offering more options to the consumer. I think their customer service could be a whole lot better, too.
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