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Old July 3rd, 2005, 04:29 PM
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Natural Golf redux

If you read my posts in the past, you can see I'm a big golf "mutt". I done a lot of different methods, teachers, and theories. I think I'm going to head back to Natural Golf. I had used it a couple of years ago, and had good accuracy. I'll let you know how I progress...
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 05:01 PM
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I went the Natural Golf route a few years back myself. The instructor really worshipped Moe Norman like he was a god of sorts. I found the man (Norman that is) a little off kilter. But he was a great ball striker. It's too bad he didn't venture out of Canada more often.

The only thing I've retained from those days is the 10 finger grip. I've really tried using other grips but I haven't found another that's worked anywhere near as well for me. What really soured me on Natural Golf was the instructor. He eventually talked me into playing right handed (I'm a lefty) and it eventually led to me quitting the game for about two years.

Anyway, please do keep us updated and if you want, PM me with your progress and let me know how things are going. Best of luck.
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 05:38 PM
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Link to GRAVES GOLF ACADEMY for instruction in the Moe Norman single plane style.
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Graves vs Natural Golf?

I see that I can go with Graves's videos or the company Natural Golf's videos. Any differnces? I have the old Natural Golf video, and am thinking about getting the newer version.

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Old July 3rd, 2005, 06:02 PM
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I see that I can go with Graves's videos or the company Natural Golf's videos. Any differnces? I have the old Natural Golf video, and am thinking about getting the newer version.

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The Graves' videos are much more detailed and accurate. Check out the chatroom and read what users have to say about the Graves' DVDs for yourself.


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Old July 3rd, 2005, 08:42 PM
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I see that I can go with Graves's videos or the company Natural Golf's videos. Any differnces? I have the old Natural Golf video, and am thinking about getting the newer version.

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I looked at this a few years ago and tried it for awhile. No miracle cure that I was hoping it was. Actually, I think it hurt my game and it took a lot of work to get back to the swing that I had before, not that it was that good or else I would not have been looking at NG but it worked better than anything I could do with NG. I ordered the tapes, took lessons, and even ordered the new NG tapes when they came out just to see the difference. IMO, don't waste your money on the new tapes. If you're determined to try it again, go with the Graves brothers. Todd Graves is the only person who was ever taught by Moe Norman as far as I know, so he is probably as close to the Moe Norman type swing as anyone alive. I personally think that the NG corporation was out to make money by selling, not only a miracle concept guaranteed to make you a better golfer, but by the equipment that they kept trying to sell you. Also, I think their schools are priced way too high. It's not for me but best of luck to you whichever way you go. Have a good one.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 10:00 AM
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rudai123 - You might want to pick up a copy "Golf Tips Magazine", Todd Graves has written an article about the single plane swing in this months issue.
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I play and teach Lever Power Golf which was developed by Jack Kuykendall who invented Natural Golf and worked with Moe Norman. Single Axis golf in any version is better than conventional golf because it is simpler to do. I would not advise trying the old Natural Golf as it did not adhere to the science of the swing and was later changed.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 08:49 PM
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I play and teach Lever Power Golf which was developed by Jack Kuykendall who invented Natural Golf and worked with Moe Norman. Single Axis golf in any version is better than conventional golf because it is simpler to do. I would not advise trying the old Natural Golf as it did not adhere to the science of the swing and was later changed.
I tried the old NG and the new and the only difference I saw was in the grip. What is different about Lever Power Golf that you think makes it better than any other form of single axis golf? I have a friend who plays with HSS and he swears by it. I haven't been able to make any of them work but I am not familiar with LPG. I assume you think it's best since you play and teach it. I'm really curious. Thanks.
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P.S. If you don't want to go into this on this thread, please send a pm to me. Thanks again.
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I'd also like to hear more about LPG. The website is very cryptic, and very confrontational. You can't even see what the swing looks like...
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LPG uses science to optimize the golf swing. It produces accuracy and distance with less stress on the back and shoulders. The science is on the web site-www.kuykendallgolf.com and can be joined to see the research. The LPG swing is accurate because the left wrist movement is reduced and the triceps provide the speed to the start of the downswing. The main points are: single axis ten finger grip, left wrist stays as straight and flat as possible, the right arm and wrist bend as much as possible(which makes the left elbow bend also). There full rotation of the fore arms to the right on the babackswingns a full release and rotaion of the fore arms left on the follow through. The body is square at impact. What LPG has done for me is: increase my club head speed from 78 mph to 95 mph with my driver which has given me an increase of 25 yards distance with my irons and 30 yards with my driver. My loss of power was due to wrist surgery years ago. I now hit the ball almost as far as I did when I was younger. I am 51 and have been a class A PGA professional for 20 years. I have taught and studied golf for 26 years and LPG is the best I have seen. If you believe as I did that wrists cocking up and down and that the big muscles provide the power to the swing then do not read the web site because it shows that to be incorrect.
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Old July 7th, 2005, 10:14 AM
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Thanks for your reply, Gary. I will check out the site because I am really curious. Didn't start playing golf until late 40's and I am now fast approaching 59. Never had lots of power but I've noticed a considerable lack of what I did have in the last couple or three years. My game is just so inconsistent. Some days 80 some days a struggle to break 90. Guess that's just golf for you. Thanks again.
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Old July 7th, 2005, 11:16 AM
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Gary, I checked out the Kuykendallgolf website and frankly was a littled shocked. They want $60 to join the site? I wasn't able to access much of anything that gave me even a hint of what this is all about other than another claim to a magic game, no offense intended to you. I sincerely hope it will work well for you for many years to come but I'm not willing to pay $60 just to read more about it. Thanks again for posting though and have a great day.
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Old July 10th, 2005, 12:08 AM
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I believe that $60 is a good price for this information, roughly the price of a golf lesson but worth much more. However, if you have a specific question, Jerry or any one else, I will be glad to answer it. LPG is an evolution swing from the Heard Super Swing to the Kuykendall toss swing(Moe Norman and Natural Golf) to now Lever Power Golf.
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LPG uses science to optimize the golf swing. It produces accuracy and distance with less stress on the back and shoulders. The science is on the web site-www.kuykendallgolf.com and can be joined to see the research. The LPG swing is accurate because the left wrist movement is reduced and the triceps provide the speed to the start of the downswing. The main points are: single axis ten finger grip, left wrist stays as straight and flat as possible, the right arm and wrist bend as much as possible(which makes the left elbow bend also). There full rotation of the fore arms to the right on the babackswingns a full release and rotaion of the fore arms left on the follow through. The body is square at impact. What LPG has done for me is: increase my club head speed from 78 mph to 95 mph with my driver which has given me an increase of 25 yards distance with my irons and 30 yards with my driver. My loss of power was due to wrist surgery years ago. I now hit the ball almost as far as I did when I was younger. I am 51 and have been a class A PGA professional for 20 years. I have taught and studied golf for 26 years and LPG is the best I have seen. If you believe as I did that wrists cocking up and down and that the big muscles provide the power to the swing then do not read the web site because it shows that to be incorrect.
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