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Old July 16th, 2005, 05:01 AM
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Exclamation Bunker shots

I did a shortgame test today to see how many up and downs I got from various places by chipping and also from bunkers... for the bunker test I got 1 out of 20 up and downs ... I'm having trouble even getting it to stay on the green, they either come out and I over hit the green or I like fat it 1 meter back into the bunker.
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, my swing/technique that I use in bunkers is: steeper swing, ball back in stance, open clubface, 3/4 swing.
Anyone have any idea on what to do to fix it? pleaaaseeeee ....
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Old July 16th, 2005, 05:19 AM
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Move the ball foward in your stance, about where you would play your fairway metal from. Stance should be well open to the target line, with the clubface pointed at the target. Amount of back swing determines distance! Aim for a spot in the sand about 1 inch behind the ball. Hope this helps GG.
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Old July 16th, 2005, 06:50 AM
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Easier said then done...
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Old July 16th, 2005, 07:17 AM
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You should only use a steeper swing I find if the pin is cut close to the bunker. When I'm in the bunkers I think V shaped swing for a closely cut pin and a shallow U shape if it's a fair way on the green to get the ball to run.
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Old July 18th, 2005, 06:32 PM
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The swing depends on your lie . This advice applies to greenside traps .

Good lie : If your ball is sitting on top of the sand , open your stance a bit and play from the middle to just forward of middle of your stance , with your clubface open . Try to imagine how hard you would hit a shot from double the distance you have to your landing spot , and swing that hard . Swing at your normal swing angle (not steep) , but instead of hitting the ball first , drive the sand club into the sand 1-2 inches behind the ball and swing firmly through it with a full follow through . You should never feel your club striking the ball - instead the ball should float out on the splash of sand that you do strike . A little practice will teach you how hard to swing to achieve various distances .

Buried lie : There are two ways to get out of the buried lie . If you have a lot of green between you and the hole and a normal bunker lip , you can take a square stance and with a closed clubface strike very firmly 2-3 inches behind the ball and drive the club down and through to a full finish - the ball should come out hot and running . If you have only a little green to work with or a high bunker lip , you take an open stance and drop your hands so that the toe of your club rises well above the heel , creating a "V" with your shaft and the bottom of the club where your club will strike the sand . Drive the "V" into the sand 2-3 inches behind the ball and firmly swing through to a full finish . The ball should pop out higher and softer than with the other (closed face) method , but will still run some upon landing (you can't backspin it) .

I hope this helps you in the sand - the pros generally prefer being in the sand to being in any rough , because sand is much more predictable - with just a few practice sessions you can make sand your friend .
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Old July 19th, 2005, 04:34 AM
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Move the ball foward in your stance, about where you would play your fairway metal from. Stance should be well open to the target line, with the clubface pointed at the target. Amount of back swing determines distance! Aim for a spot in the sand about 1 inch behind the ball. Hope this helps GG.
Yes...

But to err on the side of caution, you could aim slightly left of pin, if you are right handed. Which can allow for the tendency for bunker shots to go right, especially as its easier to get out of a bunker with a good lye, if you have the face of the wedge open... But only if its a good lye. It can be very interesting trying the same shot from fluffy semi rough conditions to get over obstructions & to kill the ball onto the green

Only problem with any of this is a fat shot will sky a ball or at worst leave it where it is, & a thinned ball can end up 90 yards away, in front or 90 degrees to the right...

Either way, do as ForgedRbest suggests When pulled off right its a lovely shot
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Old July 19th, 2005, 05:24 AM
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I tried forged's advice and it worked..... well better than it was before anyway, I think it was the ball position that caused the most problem.
Thanks for the help everyone
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Old July 19th, 2005, 05:29 AM
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GirlGolfa, are you still playing with a cutdown putter? If so, did they swigweight it for you after they shortened it?
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Old July 19th, 2005, 05:47 AM
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GirlGolfa, are you still playing with a cutdown putter? If so, did they swigweight it for you after they shortened it?
No, I've got a odyessy now... but I have to get that one cut down too, along with my wedges, I'm too short!
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Old July 19th, 2005, 05:50 AM
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Make sure when they cut them down to have them adjust the swingweight. This is critical! Make sure your putter is between a C-6 to a D-4 swingweight or you will have real problems on faster greens. My putter is a D-4 at 31". Your wedges should be weighted to at least what the rest of your irons are or even a bit heavier. Hope this helps.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 09:28 PM
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Here is what I have been doing. I can usually do pretty well from the sand using this technique.

Open the club face wide open by rotating the wrists.
Set up with the ball near your back foot.
Set up with an open stance (about a 45 degree angle between ball and flag)
For short shots, use a V swing (practically straight up on both the backswing and followthrough).
For longer shots, use a U swing. The dept of the swing depends on the length of the shot.

http://www.mygolfdomain.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150

I don't have the ball all the way on my back foot, but it is closer to my back foot than front foot.
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