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Old August 21st, 2005, 12:21 PM
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how to stop coming over the top

i am wondering if anyone has any drills to help me stop coming over the top on the downswing
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Old August 21st, 2005, 02:03 PM
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Usually a stronger grip will help. Not stronger has in gripping tighter, but stronger as in rotating your hands to the right (right handed golfer)
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Old August 21st, 2005, 03:57 PM
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how many nuckles should you see on your left hand
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Old August 21st, 2005, 03:58 PM
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For me, it's keeping my right elbow closer to my body. It's tough to come over the top or cast the club when you don't permit the elbow to fly
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Old August 21st, 2005, 04:23 PM
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how many nuckles should you see on your left hand

At least two. For me I like to see three. Like I said, that is a start. It may not fix it becuase it could essentially be any number of things causing it.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 07:38 PM
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Casting the old over the top problem. I suggest you take at least one video lesson to
see why you are casting. There are too many factors in play here from poor posture to a bad take way, misalignment, go spend the bucks.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 12:40 AM
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Try putting another ball 2 inches across and one inch back fromn the ball you are hitting. This will teach you to swing in to out.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 10:03 AM
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Take a 2X4 about 3 feet long to the range. Use the lines on the range ball to point to where you want the ball to go. Align the 2X4 about 5-10 yds Right (Left for a Left-Hander) of your intended target line. The clearance between the ball and the 2X4 should be about the distance from the center of the club to the toe + about 1/2 inch (closer if you want less room for error). We call this the clunk drill...make sure you put the ball far enough (at least middle) up the board so you don't catch the back of the board if you hit it. Hitting the board in the middle won't hurt you or the club...unless you really chop into it...
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 11:15 AM
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I cured it with 3 30 minutes lessons ($50 a lesson) from the pro at a public course who had a video camera there. With each lesson, she showed me what I was doing in slow-mo. There's nothing better.

The pro changed my grip to the stronger grip described above (make sure you can see the first 3 knuckles on your left hand -- and that the V's formed by your thumb/forefinger point toward your right houlder, not to your nose).

The next thing I had to do was make a more complete body turn -- the shoulders should be turning as close to 90 degree on your back swing, while your head stays straight. I needed to do some stretching exercises, but within a few days, I could do it. And I am still doing it.

To keep the elbow tucked in the pro recommended holding a towel between my right arm and body while swinging -- it was not a drill I liked or did much of. What I did find helpful in solving the "chicken wing elbow" was the elastic band they sell at golf stores that slips through your arms and keeps your elbows at the same length. I didn't need to use it much to get the feel; just a few swings occasionally. Now, rather than think about where my right elbow is, I think about keeping the same form (with my elbows equi-distant) through the back swing.

And finally -- probably most important -- a complete follow-through, ending with your belly facing the target and up on your toes. At first, I didn't think it mattered but the teacher pushed me to get up on my right toe. And it really made a differences.

After the first lesson, I felt like I was ruined -- couldn't hit the ball at all. But I buckled down and gave it a try. Bit by bit, I ended up with a new swing and I have kept it down pretty good. I have to say that now, when i make a bad shot, I am usually able to know why -- I know what I did wrong. And when I practice, I know what to work on.

Yesterday, I hit 7 greens from T shots (par 3 holes of course). I would say I knocked 12 strokes off my score. And I am finally getting to that elusive goal of a consistent swing.

But it was definitely not from fixing just one thing.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 03:11 PM
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thanks everybody for the tips but also does anyone have any tips to stop rolling my rists before impact
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 03:39 PM
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thanks everybody for the tips but also does anyone have any tips to stop rolling my rists before impact
Why do you want to stop this? It should be a natural motion that your wrists start to roll over as they get closer to impact. If you stop this you're probably going to hit a lot of shots out to the right.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 04:38 PM
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thanks everybody for the tips but also does anyone have any tips to stop rolling my rists before impact
Stop consciously trying to make it happen and loosen your grip pressure. Your hands WILL release when they need to without any help from you.
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 03:59 PM
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but is it caused by taking it too far inside on the takeaway
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 04:09 PM
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YES. Most of the time, throwing it over the top is caused by trying to get too far to the inside. Think more like Jim Furyk in that he gives himself the room to swing to the inside.
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Old August 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM
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I have this problem as well, I find if I concentrate on the impact zone, and how I want the club to approach and move through the ball, I can stay inside. My pro has me do some drill where I tee up a ball with a 7 iron and aim way right and hook/draw the ball back to the target. Try this a couple times at the range and then go back to hitting it straight (preferably with a slight draw). Works for me.
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