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Old November 1st, 2005, 06:06 AM
Putton Putton is offline
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Does anyone have a swing key that will make your body movements and your arm swing synchronize perfectly every time? If you do and you don't want to share it, I can understand that. I have heard Tiger say (on TV) that sometimes his body movements out race his arm swing. I have also heard Fred Funk say that synchronization of body movements and arm swing are sometimes a problem for him
If Tiger has not found it yet I doubt anybody else would. The idea is to have a repeatable swing which will enable you to hit the ball consistently. You are right. Swinging your arms and body perfectly and sychronised every time, is not possible.

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Old November 1st, 2005, 02:54 PM
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Does anyone have a swing key that will make your body movements and your arm swing synchronize perfectly every time? If you do and you don't want to share it, I can understand that. I have heard Tiger say (on TV) that sometimes his body movements out race his arm swing. I have also heard Fred Funk say that synchronization of body movements and arm swing are sometimes a problem for him. Maybe you just have to be very talented and/or practice, practice, practice. I have an 18 handicap. My short game is bad because I spend most of my practice time on the full swing. I have had lots of lessons, read books, watched videos. Used lots of different downswing keys. The downswing key I am using now is to pull with the entire left side of my body, which I think is what many tour players do. My swing now seems to be just about perfect on the practice range, but when I get on the course with time between shots, that sync problem pops up again. No pattern to it. I can get the body movements ahead or the arm swing ahead. I always take practice swings on the course whenever it will not bother anyone. I think this helps a little, but not near enough. It is not an overswinging problem, or right side takeover, or anything like that. I have had a friend video record me on the practice range, and then on the course. Neither of us can see any difference except for the sync problem. I really doubt if there is a perfect swing key for this. I just thought I would ask.
Personally I don't think there is any one key. Each phase of the golf swing is built upon the previous phase. For me EVERYTHING starts with good setup and address posture. If my setup is good this contributes to making a good backswing. If my backswing is good it position the club for a good downswing and impact.

I also believe one of the worst things you can do is think too much about your swing. I have one swing thought and that's to make a good shoulder turn.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:29 AM
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If you watch the majority of players today, the modern golf swing emphasizes the lower body moving forward before the top half. Although it is hard to tell, if they slow it down you can really see it. I've found that I'm hitting the ball consistently straighter now, especially with my driver. Which is what I've been struggling with. Try seperating the lower half from the top half.

On the backswing, only the upper body should move, and majority of your weight shifted to the inside of your right foot(assuming you're right handed).On the downswing, initiate it with your lower body and let the rest of the body follow. Again, this is the modern golf swing.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 04:04 AM
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The following is my perception and my opinion. If anyone disagrees, I have no problem with that.
In the downswing, it is obvious that your lower body must lead, with your upper body and your arm swing following. I have read and heard a lot of instruction that says or implies that your lower body should start its downswing move first. I cannot do that, and I have never seen a professional do it. In a good swing, your upper body and lower body will start their downswing moves at the same time. Of course, once they start, your lower body will move much faster for a short time.
When I control the downswing by pulling with my left shoulder, the rest of my body movements are automatic. I never have to think about them. That’s not to say that I make a perfect shot every time. There are plenty of other things that take practice, like extension, timing, swing plane, clubhead path, and clubface angle. Then, of course, there is the setup, grip, alignment, etc.
The golf swing can be very elusive. It is very difficult to copy a good players swing, because you cannot see how it is controlled, and the good player usually has a difficult time teaching his swing to someone else.


I disagree. If you look carefully (slow motion) you will notice that almost all profesionals jerk their left knee towards the target to initiate the downswing and quite a few of them start to jerk their knee towards the target before even reaching the top of their backswing. This is what creates the torque that is necessary to propell the ball 300 yards.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 09:37 AM
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In my experience, you can think about your swing and work on things on the range. As soon as you step on the golf course, it is time to let muscle memory take over. If I am thinking about swing keys or positions on the course the chances of me playing a consistent 18 holes is not very good. When I truly play my best, I am thinking about where to hit the ball, not how to hit the ball. I think that is one thing that is very different about hitting range balls and playing real golf.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 11:14 AM
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I am thinking about where to hit the ball, not how to hit the ball.
Couldn't agree with you more.
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