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Old December 31st, 2005, 02:37 PM
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Hip Turn

I've been having trouble turning my hip before I start my downswing. It is fine when I do practice swing but not the real one I have to hit a ball. I tried hard to fix it but I couldn't so far. When I don't release my hip most likely my swing turns into semi over the top, out to in kind of trjectory. So I've tried to open my hip at the address ( Not like Trevino's who actually open his stance to left and hit right ) like an impact position and it seems to help a lot. Besides the point that it restrict my turn a bit and my posture at address doesn't look ordinary or conventional, can pros and teachers on this forum think of anything else wrong with this setup?
Being snowed in, I haven't tried this on the course yet and I'm trying to get to a launch monitor as soon as I can but I'm curious as to why I haven't seen anything like this before except maybe for chip shots..

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Old January 1st, 2006, 06:24 PM
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I've been having trouble turning my hip before I start my downswing. It is fine when I do practice swing but not the real one I have to hit a ball. I tried hard to fix it but I couldn't so far. When I don't release my hip most likely my swing turns into semi over the top, out to in kind of trjectory. So I've tried to open my hip at the address ( Not like Trevino's who actually open his stance to left and hit right ) like an impact position and it seems to help a lot. Besides the point that it restrict my turn a bit and my posture at address doesn't look ordinary or conventional, can pros and teachers on this forum think of anything else wrong with this setup?
Being snowed in, I haven't tried this on the course yet and I'm trying to get to a launch monitor as soon as I can but I'm curious as to why I haven't seen anything like this before except maybe for chip shots..

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so are you saying your hips are too open at impact?
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Old January 1st, 2006, 06:30 PM
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so are you saying your hips are too open at impact?
No my hips are not moving left they're stuck on right side so my weight is not properly shifting and my swing is coming out to in.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 12:58 AM
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if you cant unwind the hips then you have not wound them, look at improving your backswing and loading up your body, then it will be able to unwind. Also make sure your ball poition is good, not behind center for full shots.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 05:30 AM
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Opening the hips at address is a good way to hit a fade or slice, if you keep the clubface square to your target and swing along the line created by your feet the ball will fade. Now if you just aim everything to the left, you will simply be hitting to the left of your target.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 10:59 AM
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if you cant unwind the hips then you have not wound them, look at improving your backswing and loading up your body, then it will be able to unwind. Also make sure your ball poition is good, not behind center for full shots.
That'll be a normal way of looking at it but in my case I wound up too much ( like Bobbie Jones going back ) but my shoulder comes out faster than my hip can unwind. I'm thinking maybe lack of ab muscle is cause of this. As I said before my practice swing ( even with light balls ) is fine. Only when I brace for impact my shoulder outrace my hips and come OTT. Well, I'm going to stick with open hip address position and see what happens. Looking at Trevino swing again he's aiming at 30-40 degree left and his hip looks open so maybe I should adapt his swing style. He's my height even though a few pounds heavier..
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 11:01 AM
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Opening the hips at address is a good way to hit a fade or slice, if you keep the clubface square to your target and swing along the line created by your feet the ball will fade. Now if you just aim everything to the left, you will simply be hitting to the left of your target.
I'm trying to open my stance without aiming to the left. But I'm looking at Trevino swing closely to evaluate both options. It probably depends on what kind fo grip I adapt to..
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 11:33 AM
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Trevino certainly favored a fade but if you can duplicate his figure 8 swing you've really done something!
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:59 PM
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i can suggests something u can try to turn your hips ..but u have to start on the back swing too..

separate your backswing into two parts. 1st part - turn your hips 45 degree first. THEN move your arms/shoulders, etc.

On the downswing , make a conscious effort to turn the hip back first to square, THEN let the arms drop into plane.

it will looks and feel strange at first, but once you educate your hips to move properly, you can combine the two actions to make it seemless .

hope it helps .(i'm no teacher , but that's why my pro made me do and it's really helping me)
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 07:59 PM
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i can suggests something u can try to turn your hips ..but u have to start on the back swing too..

separate your backswing into two parts. 1st part - turn your hips 45 degree first. THEN move your arms/shoulders, etc.

On the downswing , make a conscious effort to turn the hip back first to square, THEN let the arms drop into plane.

it will looks and feel strange at first, but once you educate your hips to move properly, you can combine the two actions to make it seemless .

hope it helps .(i'm no teacher , but that's why my pro made me do and it's really helping me)
Sure I will give it a try. Do you do this with a ball or without? I really can't recreate my problem without hitting a ball. My practice swing always looks great
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:03 PM
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i'll suggest trying to do it without a ball first to get the feeling .. trust me.. it will really feel strange the first few times you do it and your timing might get screwed up .. but once it sticks... it's for life ..

once you get the hang of it doing it without a ball (even without a club anywhere you don't get strange looks..took me about a few days to be really comfortable with it) , then you should do it when you practise ...with many many range balls
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:31 PM
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rate your backsiwng on a scale of 1-5 one would be very flat and five would be very steep
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 10:47 PM
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rate your backsiwng on a scale of 1-5 one would be very flat and five would be very steep
It'll have to be around 2..
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 12:30 AM
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like I told slicer,
the flatter the backswing the easier it is to swing over the top. The steeeper the backswing the easier to come from the inside. You guys would benefit from trying to learn Furyks swing. Get yourself on tape without hitting a ball and swing the club STRAIGHT up, then start with your lower body, the club MUST drop to the inside. if you start with the lower body THERE IS NO WAY you will come over the top from a fairly steep backswing position.
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Old January 3rd, 2006, 07:10 PM
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like I told slicer,
the flatter the backswing the easier it is to swing over the top. The steeeper the backswing the easier to come from the inside. You guys would benefit from trying to learn Furyks swing. Get yourself on tape without hitting a ball and swing the club STRAIGHT up, then start with your lower body, the club MUST drop to the inside. if you start with the lower body THERE IS NO WAY you will come over the top from a fairly steep backswing position.
Isn't that basically the same concept as trevino's figure 8 swing?
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