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Ok i'm currently using a cobra 460sz 10.5 reg.

My swing is a little faster now so I would like to go stiff. Not sure if it is the reg that is causing the slice but it doesn't happen with stiff shafts. Can anyone confirm that could be a cause?

Anyways, I am also thinking about going down to a 9.5. How drastic is the 1 degree change? What should I look out for, going to stiff and lower degree?

Also, how good are the drivers with the adjustable weights? Do they work? is it recommended?

The shaft could be one of a number of things to cause you to slice, try out a few stiff shafted drivers and see how they go. There's not too much difference between hitting a 10.5* and 9.5*.

I recently read that the average golfer wuith a swing speed of 100 or so should use a regular flex and a higher loft. The pro in question even suggested a loft of up to 13*. He mentioned the average golfer over-estimates his abilities and actually hurts himself with a stiff shaft. I have a friend with a 4 handicap and a fast swing speed who went with a regular shaft and is hitting the ball much farther and staighter. Also, a shaft that is too flexed would be causing a hook, not a slice.

So what you're trying to say is that only pro's need to use stiff shafts......rubbish, it's personal to each person / swing, ability is irrelevant.

I think he was just trying to say the ego takes over men, and they think they need stiff shafts when they are only with a 100 mph swing. < not rubbish
If you have tried regular and stiff shafts together and the stiff shaft was straight why did you buy the regular ? When I got custom fitted for my irons the regular shafts was causing the ball to be pushed to the left and right really sporatic, he let me swing another club and just said hmmmm. That club was with the stiff shaft and all of them were straight. I was only 15 so it wasn't like I was a powerhouse then. Swing and ability is relevant in this, a better play with a better swing can actually get away with swinging less stiff shafts and still keep the ball in play. Where as the guy who thanks he needs stiff shafts, but doesn't will actually loose some distance, so he swings harder to make up for the loss of distance and them bam his game stinks.

uh, coming from a pro at edwin watts, an average of 95-100 mph DEFINITELY constitutes a stiff, unless you have the worlds slowest tempo. My average ss is 102 mph with a medium-fast tempo and I have waaay too much swing for a regular, I learned from experiences with my R-flex Ignite.

It's not going to fix your slice if thats what you mean. Personally, for anyone that is not on the tour and cant repeat their swing like a robot, it wont mean anything. The swing you put on the ball is going to have 10x more effect than the weights.

instead of just talking abt the flex...why don't try with differnt weighted shaft?
i changed from a 55g shaft (Fujikura) to a 65g shaft (prolaunch blue) on my driver with good results...

I'd have to know more than just your swing speed to give you good advice about shaft flex. I'd need to see how hard you swing, along with your swing speed, before I could offer a good recommendation. There are some instances where guys with less than 95 mph driver swings are fitted for a stiff flex, simply because they have a very hard swing. Remember, HARD does not always equal FAST. On the flip side, I've seen guys who develop more than enough clubhead speed to be considered for stiff flex based on the numbers themselves, but play a regular flex graphite because their swings are smooth and they can control it.

As far as loft, each company has their own standards of tolerances. Some companies' lofts are weaker, others are stronger. And it's not just a matter of loft, but the launch angle of the clubhead as well. If you think that your ballflight is too high and robbing you of some roll distance, I suppose it could be worth considering. But I would demo before I order, especially if you're looking at a different brand than what you currently have. And generally speaking, less loft doesn't always mean more distance. Sometimes less loft also means less control, which could have a very negative affect on distance as well.

My advice would be to try and demo as many options as possible, and if you're still struggling to make a decision, have a knowledgeable clubfitter help you make the decision based on a good, reliable fitting process.

shafts wont cause slices typically, they will cause pushes maybe but not a slice. find out what your swing speed is. i will have a better answer for you then. but i can promise you this.. if you are to fast for a regular flex...then just slowing down and making good contact will yield MUCH MORE distance than going to a stiff flex.

I had my Ignite regular shaft removed this weekend. The club maker that fitted me for the new shaft explained the action of the Ignite shaft like this. The shaft was so weak, it was like casting a fishing pole with too much lead weight on the line. The club head would "gate" as he called it and remain open at impact. He showed me what he was talking about when he grabbed the grip and the club head and twisted it. I've got a tempo swing, and an impact speed of between 90 and 94 mph. The only time I could hit the club with any accuracy was when I came to a complete stop at the top of my backswing. I assume this would let the shaft settle back into its proper position for the downswing.

The shaft he replaced it with is a Harrison titanium 2.5 in a regular flex. The two shafts are night and day to the point that I'm going to have to relearn how to hit the driver. There is no unwanted movement in the ball flight left or right that I can blame anymore.

Moral of the story, have someone that knows what they are looking at take a look at your swing. If you can't load a stiff shaft properly, you will loose distance and net nothing except the loss of the $100 bucks for a new shaft.

A shaft that's too soft generally causes hooks, contrary to popular belief.

There are many factors that come into play when chosing a shaft. There's the flex, torque, weight, kick point, tip stiffness, butt size... can't think of any more...

It's best to find a club fitter and find out what would fit u best, as it's difficult to say here.

There technically isn't a such thing as "regular", "stiff", etc...

Each company puts that little "R" and "S" on there, but if you test each shafts frequency they are all different from company to company. A "R" shaft for one company might be an "S" for another.

True... even the same shaft, the same flex from the same company might be off.
I once tested 2 drivers with the exact same specs... one was 265, one was 272...

On a side note, OEM shafts (the ones that come from the factory) usually suck, although nowadays they do come in a selection of better shafts...

Yeah, I have the green Aldila NV with an "S" on it. For and giggles I had the frequency tested and don't remember what it came back, but the guy told me that technically it was considered about an extra stiff (or what would generally be considered extra stiff), since we already determined that there technically is no one universal "stff" or "regular". Really opened my eyes to club fitting.