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Old July 15th, 2006, 06:13 PM
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Please critique my swing

http://media.putfile.com/My-swing-1

http://media.putfile.com/My-swing-2

Here are two files of my swing. I think in both I took two slow swings and then regular swings. This is a 7 iron.

One thing I noticed immediately and you can see me working on is that I come inside on the way back - waaaay inside. And my initial takeaway is odd, it doesn't seem smooth to me. The other thing I noticed is that I get way past parallel at the top.

Please let me know what you think. To me it seems that I have a decent position at the top (aside from being past parallel), but I take the club a strange route to get there.

Any suggestions would be appreciated - and be brutal. Don't hesitate to pick it apart.

Thanks!
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Old July 15th, 2006, 08:23 PM
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You lay the club off as part of an initial move. This lays the club open and way inside by the time it reaches waist height.

This also contributes to the past parallel at the top. I would guess when your rhythm is good, it looks fine, but when your timing is even slightly off... Probably a real variety of misses involved here.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM
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You lay the club off as part of an initial move. This lays the club open and way inside by the time it reaches waist height.

This also contributes to the past parallel at the top. I would guess when your rhythm is good, it looks fine, but when your timing is even slightly off... Probably a real variety of misses involved here.
Yeah, the whole initial takeaway looked wierd to me. What's the solution to laying it off like that at the beginning? It looked strange to me, I just don't know how to correct it.

And yes, there are times when I can play some great golf, but you probably hit the nail on the head re: my timing and when it's off.

Very much appreciate any input.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:11 PM
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Your shoulder rotation move at the start of your downswing is too agressive. At impact your hips and arms are still catching up.

Try taking the club back on a better plane (starting your hands along the target line), and then start the downswing by dropping your arms, not by rotating your shoulders, the rest will follow automatically. This won't feel very powerful but it is (provided you keep your head behind the ball, and do not lunge towards the target). Try and do all of this smoothly, and without excess movement: don't swing too hard!
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:19 PM
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I think you might be regripping or letting go of the club at the top ... and that is how your club gets WAY past parallel at the top.

Otherwise it looks good.

If you have no problem with distance, I'd try to shorten that swing alot, practice a super smooth transition at the top and I'd suspect you'd gain alot of consistency.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:34 PM
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In video 1 you were regripping the club. That might be from the artificial slow swings you were trying.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:39 PM
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Your shoulder rotation move at the start of your downswing is too agressive. At impact your hips and arms are still catching up.

Try taking the club back on a better plane (starting your hands along the target line), and then start the downswing by dropping your arms, not by rotating your shoulders, the rest will follow automatically. This won't feel very powerful but it is (provided you keep your head behind the ball, and do not lunge towards the target). Try and do all of this smoothly, and without excess movement: don't swing too hard!
Just went outside and tried it in a reflection in the window. Your comment about starting my hands along the target line explains what the earlier poster said about me laying the club off in the initial move. Also, the shoulder comment was spot on - I tried a few slow swings by dropping the arms as the first move, and it all clicked nicely into place.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:40 PM
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I think you might be regripping or letting go of the club at the top ... and that is how your club gets WAY past parallel at the top.

Otherwise it looks good.

If you have no problem with distance, I'd try to shorten that swing alot, practice a super smooth transition at the top and I'd suspect you'd gain alot of consistency.
Yeah, that's another thing I was minimally aware of - letting the club go with my left hand at the top. Thanks for the post!
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:45 PM
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I'm curious to know what you used to record the video clips. I MIGHT post a clip of my swing, but I don't want to be told to just quit.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:47 PM
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Just a digital camera that also has a video setting - Fujifilm A 210.

And post it - I'm loving the feedback I'm getting, it's really helpful.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:51 PM
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Shoot the Grip

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I'm curious to know what you used to record the video clips. I MIGHT post a clip of my swing, but I don't want to be told to just quit.
Make sure you show some shots of your grip too.
:) That helps alot.

If the grip is poor, that often explains alot of the people's problem.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 09:57 PM
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Make sure you show some shots of your grip too.
:) That helps alot.

If the grip is poor, that often explains alot of the people's problem.
I'm actually very conscientious about my grip, but I even still feel like it slides a bit in the left hand. I'll post pictures of it in the morning.

Meanwhile, if you go here:

http://www.golftipsmag.com/content/index_videotips.html

and click on "practice tee" and then "Happy Gilmore Drill," this is exactly what the earlier poster commented on regarding my shoulders being to aggressive.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 10:18 PM
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Great videos.
I am going to try the Happy Gilmore Drill as well.
The takeaway drill goes well for you too.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 10:25 PM
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Just a digital camera that also has a video setting - Fujifilm A 210.

And post it - I'm loving the feedback I'm getting, it's really helpful.
Thank you sir. I'll consider posting a clip sometime haha.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 10:41 PM
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there's a couple i things i spotted that needed to be improved on. first, you must brace the knee more, it'd plenty flexed, but it's swaying too far back. at the top of your backswing, stop, look at your right foot, your right knee should be parallel with your right foot and do not let it straighten up. you might put a golf ball underneath the outside of the right foot, this will give you that feeling.
also, don't let your head lean toward the target, this has a tendency to cause a small reverse pivot. both of these will help you shorten the swing and not cross over the line. you'll find the ball will go farther and straighter.
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