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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:43 PM
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Fixing (yes, fixing) a draw

I draw my irons and I want to stop. I've tried adjusting my grip to leave the clubface a bit more open but then I just block it to the right dead straight. As someone who plays maybe 7-10 times a year, is it safer and more realistic to try to change my swing plane a bit or to just open my stance up a little? Or perhaps something else, like breaking my wrists more at the top?

In other words, if I was playing again tomorrow, and couldn't go to the range in between, what would be your best tip to fix this? Thanks.
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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:46 PM
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hmm I would say how about skip a day or playing and go to a club fitter and check your lie angles and shaft flex on your clubs.
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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:51 PM
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I don't mean to sound like this is meant to be a smart *** answer, but if you only are playing 7-10 times per year, you cannot really expect to have a solid swing.

Its very hard to tell without seeing a persons swing, but maybe its something as simple as you having your clubface slightly closed at address? What may looks square to you, in reality may not be. Or, how about simply aiming slight right of your target and letting your natural draw bring the ball back in? Another thing to maybe look at is your ball position. At address play the ball in line with the logo (or where the logo would be if you don't have one) on your shirt (left peck). If you have the ball to far back, you will have your shoulders closed, moving the ball forward a little opens your shoulders.

If I might ask...why do you want to stop drawing the ball?

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Old August 4th, 2006, 04:54 PM
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^^^ yea i cant agree more, i'd just get to the range more that could be a simple fix
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Old August 4th, 2006, 07:03 PM
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alot of guys would die for a draw!
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Old August 4th, 2006, 10:50 PM
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alot of guys would die for a draw!
Actually alot of guys dont know what a real draw is.... most people actually are dying for a mild hook
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Old August 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM
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Actually alot of guys dont know what a real draw is.... most people actually are dying for a mild hook
Amen to that. A draw starts out right of the target but ends up at the target. I believe a draw should look like the symbol above your zero key (you know the close parentheses symbol.)
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Old August 5th, 2006, 02:03 AM
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As someone who plays maybe 7-10 times a year, is it safer and more realistic to try to change my swing plane a bit or to just open my stance up a little?
How often do you practice?
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Old August 5th, 2006, 06:16 AM
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Amen to that. A draw starts out right of the target but ends up at the target. I believe a draw should look like the symbol above your zero key (you know the close parentheses symbol.)
Actually I like that... a very neat description.
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Old August 5th, 2006, 07:07 PM
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How often do you practice?
I probably go to the range 10-12 times per year and I also hit "Birdie Balls" at the park every now and then. I swing in the mirror all the time though :)

As for why I want to get rid of a draw? For one, it's not necessarily good for approaching greens, as far as I can tell. Also, I think it's dangerous, because if you aim to draw the ball and hit it straight, you're going way right and probably in trouble.

Besides, it's not that I'll lose the ability to draw it if I want. I can do that now with the fairway woods even though I normally hit them straight. It's just that I'm befuddled as to why my weaker grip didn't fix it. Could just be a statistical abnormality. I'll get to the range when I can and check it out. Appreciate all the help :)
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Old August 5th, 2006, 07:46 PM
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....is it safer and more realistic to try to change my swing plane a bit or to just open my stance up a little? Or perhaps something else, like breaking my wrists more at the top?
With as little as you play and practice, there is some risk to all of the above approaches. You could try a single lesson: Your problem is very specific and a pro might be able to sort this out for you in just half an hour.

There is one other thing that you could try: Do you set up / take your grip with the club grounded? If so, lift up your club in front of you and check the real clubface orientation. It is all too easy to introduce error when setting up on the ground.
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Old August 5th, 2006, 09:13 PM
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As for why I want to get rid of a draw? For one, it's not necessarily good for approaching greens, as far as I can tell. Also, I think it's dangerous, because if you aim to draw the ball and hit it straight, you're going way right and probably in trouble.
If that is your reason, you are hitting a fairly significant hook! A draw (even in the slightly incorrect way it is usually utilised) will move a matter of several feet or several yards. To put you in trouble it would need to be starting 20 or 30 yards and coming back....
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Old August 6th, 2006, 04:05 AM
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If that is your reason, you are hitting a fairly significant hook! A draw (even in the slightly incorrect way it is usually utilised) will move a matter of several feet or several yards. To put you in trouble it would need to be starting 20 or 30 yards and coming back....

I agree with the above, besides there is a thing called a "good miss" as long as you know where to miss a green, missing it isnt all that bad.

Opening your stance to the target(or aiming left of target), pointing your clubface at the target, and swinging down the line of your body should produce a fade. If not just line up normal and open the clubface a good bit and hack away, that should make the ball go left to right hahaha
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Old August 7th, 2006, 06:02 PM
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If that is your reason, you are hitting a fairly significant hook! A draw (even in the slightly incorrect way it is usually utilised) will move a matter of several feet or several yards. To put you in trouble it would need to be starting 20 or 30 yards and coming back....
I really just don't want the topspin on the ball when I'm trying to land it on the green and keep it from running through. The ball flight isn't that big of a problem, if I know where it's going; if I am middle of the green it's going to end up just off to the left on an average, say 7-iron approach shot. I could aim for the right side of the green but I'd prefer to lay it in there softer with more margin for error if for some reason the ole' block shot shows up.

I've been looking today at some instructional articles on the grip and I think I'm going to try that first. I may also be having trouble because my grips are too skinny (I'm 6'2" with pretty long fingers). Whatever the case, I'm way closer than I used to be and pretty excited about it.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 10:52 PM
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^^ use the overlap grip for those long fingers , stand closer to the ball and swing along your foot line for a cut shot
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