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Old August 6th, 2006, 07:44 PM
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I hit all my shots alot lower then they should be. I believe this is part of the reason I have a horrid short game and a hardtime getting alot of distance on shots. What can I do to fix this. Thing is I can hit my longer clubs very accurate but I cant get onto the green. I land it short and even with my pitching or lob it runs off the backside. I played on wet courses(started to pour after we had teed off on the first hole.) I have also played on course when it hadnt rained for days and had been in the 90s. So I know its me and not the greens.

I have another question as well when I have to tee off near water I can not hit the ball well at all. I think I try so hard to avoid the water I end up putting 4 or 5 balls in. (my friend and I play for fun so we just hit till we get a shot that is playable.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 07:49 PM
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I have another question as well when I have to tee off near water I can not hit the ball well at all. I think I try so hard to avoid the water I end up putting 4 or 5 balls in. (my friend and I play for fun so we just hit till we get a shot that is playable.
If you think about the water, you will hit it into the water. Focus on the fairway in your thoughts. Same goes for bunkers and greens.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 07:54 PM
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I know that I was hoping someone had a tip on a way not to think of the water. I also dont think its I think of getting on the green but I just cant get the loft I need or the spin.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 08:16 PM
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In regards to the first part is it all clubs or just one?


in regards to the second what i do is take an extra club or even two so i can just take a 3/4 swing which is a lot easier. Also only think of your target. If you think dont hit in water you going to hit in the water. Another thing is what type of water hazzard is it eg (isolated green surronded by water, river, running up left/right). Each one can cause you to tweak your hit to avoid it more
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Old August 6th, 2006, 09:31 PM
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Its all clubs, I think if I understood your question/answer correctly.

Secondly about the water it is a river running right across in front of 3 or 4 of the 9 holes I normally play. There is 1 I am fine with and that I can use a driver but the others are short par 3s or par 4s and there are trees on eachside on some all but 2 of the holes you can see the flag from the tee.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 11:23 PM
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Sometimes I think that water has magnetic qualities...if you have problems getting the ball up, you will get wet, simple as that...doesn't really matter what you think about...I would suggest a lesson to work on the first issue, and once you can confidently put the ball in the air you can work on carrying water...good luck!
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Old August 6th, 2006, 11:40 PM
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Its not really getting it in air I just hit it low. My driver averages maybe 9ft high max. The courses locally they are easy to clear if I can hit the ball properly I just seem to freeze in a sense on these holes. Ive had lessons and thats why I can hit the ball straight in the first place. The only thing I have a good advantage from my low shots is on windy days as I am barely affected by the wind.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 11:58 PM
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IMO 9 ft is not cutting it unless you intend to hit it that low...try moving the ball around in your stance and see if you get a different flight that way...
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Old August 7th, 2006, 12:15 AM
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Thats the max height I can get for my clubs unless I feel like hitting the nasty slice youll find with a driver. I hit it at probably close to 60* angle to me and its ridiculously high but its only on mishits. I also still use shorter tees I use 2 3/4 tees still. Should I go up to the long tees? I am using a 450ish size head. I cant remeber off the top of my head.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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I hit all my shots alot lower then they should be. I believe this is part of the reason I have a horrid short game and a hardtime getting alot of distance on shots. What can I do to fix this. Thing is I can hit my longer clubs very accurate but I cant get onto the green. I land it short and even with my pitching or lob it runs off the backside. I played on wet courses(started to pour after we had teed off on the first hole.) I have also played on course when it hadnt rained for days and had been in the 90s. So I know its me and not the greens.

I have another question as well when I have to tee off near water I can not hit the ball well at all. I think I try so hard to avoid the water I end up putting 4 or 5 balls in. (my friend and I play for fun so we just hit till we get a shot that is playable.
The first part of this sounds as if it could be one of a hundred different things. My bet would be that you are closing the club face a little, either before you grip the club or somehow on impact. The other thing it could be is a sawn off follow through with the hands releasing low the ball flight will be low. It's best to go get a lesson as this could take you months to put right on your own. As for the water, with practice and commitment to better ball striking it wont be there. I promise.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 01:22 PM
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Are you taking a divot? Irons are meant to be hit down and through the ball, taking a divot past impact. Hitting down imparts the necessary backspin to get the ball up in the air. Backspin is what gives the ball lift. This is how Tiger hits his long irons so high. He hits down on them and he gives them a tremendous amount of backspin for a long iron. That's how he's able to hit a 3 iron 230 yds and have it land softly on the green.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 01:32 PM
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Yes I do create a divot. I have good ball contact IMO except I hit it low or when Im right near water. I play at another course with a smallish lake but the tee is 40 or so yrds back from it so I dont see it as a threat to my score it seems even though its 3 times the distance the ball travels over water.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:09 PM
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Ben Hogan said, "The ultimate judge of your swing is the flight of the ball." As I'm sure you are aware, your impact determines the flight of your ball. If your shots are two low there's probably a flaw in your impact position.
Try this and see if it helps.
Make sure that your hands are not in too strong of a position at address. For right-handers, the more the hands are turned to the right from a neutral position on the club handle, the stronger the grip (opposite for left-handers). You will see too much of the back of the left hand and the fingers of the right. A strong grip tends to close and de-loft the club face, creating low shots that go to the left. If it's not a grip issue, I would suggest moving the ball forward in your stance. The ball being too far back in your stance will also effectively de-loft your club
If your grip is good and ball placement is optimal try tilting your spine slightly away from the target so that your head is behind the ball. All of the tour players tilt slightly behind the ball from approximately 2 or 3 degrees with short irons to a full 10 degrees or more for driving. This tilted spine position should help you launch the ball higher.
Finally, be sure you continue your swing to a high, full follow through. A long, high finish will help you release your wrist angles through impact. When your wrists hinge and re-hinge through and after impact, the shaft is less likely to lean towards the target. A good rule of thumb for trajectory control is to finish high and full for a high ball flight and to finish low and short for a low ball flight.
Hope this helps.
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:34 PM
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The recommendation for teeing is to tee it so that half the ball is above the club and half the ball with club at address,so i would say go try some high tees,its also recommended that along with this you place more forward at left toes as opposed to left heel which means you will hit ball on upswing,this is proffesional advice i got from a teaching pros website.As for the water,its hard not to think of it,if i say don,t think of a green elephant i have put the idea in your head despite the word don,t,try this out,when you address the ball look at the sky and hopefully you might get a small cloud as a marker that is in direction of hole,visualise the ball flying towards that target then let your body follow through on your swing and let your body turn your eyes towards that target in the sky as opposed to looking up too soon to see where ball is going,looking up too soon makes the golf shot very difficult,by focusing on this part of sky or tall tree you will be positively aware of good ball flight and you wont have too look at water
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Old August 7th, 2006, 04:36 PM
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ps those recommendations are for oversize drivers
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