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Old August 14th, 2006, 03:03 PM
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Interested in evaluating another swing? See video...

I recently posted my swing on this website and got some great comments...so thanks y'all. I went to the driving range, and I've already got my drives a little straighter and further (and I'm even hooking it!) Finally not slicing every time :)

Here's another swing to evaluate...see what you think. It's going out a hundred and fifty yards, maybe a little more, and then all of a sudden BAM--it takes a complete left turn and is OB. Why would this be? See what you can figure out from video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xRWFBGKLQ

Thanks in advance for your help ;)
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Old August 14th, 2006, 03:44 PM
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your grip appears to be quite strong, but it also may br the camera angle. you have a really goog shoulder turn, but the mistake your making is you are leaning way too much to your right side. ideally, you would want your right knee to stay somewhat parrallel with your right foot on the back swing. the first swing , you recovered well and shifted over to your left side and i'll bet the ball went pretty straight, the second swing, you ended up on your back foot somewhat and that usually causes a big draw or duck hook. a big shoulder turn is fine, but without the big lean. hope this helps.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 04:46 PM
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it looks like your sliding too much on your left side.Your left leg also straightens. On the end of your backswing you lifted up some then came back down on the beginning of the dwonswing.

Just work on keeping the flex of your left leg so you can coil and store energy on it.its ok to have some lateral movement , but it should be from the result of coiling your trunk. imagine youre in a barrell , and try to stay surronded by it throughout the swing.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 05:24 PM
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I don't mind your big move off the ball. Just make sure you are keeping the flex in your left leg. Then turn into it all you want.

Also, get your club set a little earlier in your backswing.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 05:33 PM
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it looks like your sliding too much on your left side.Your left leg also straightens. On the end of your backswing you lifted up some then came back down on the beginning of the dwonswing.

Just work on keeping the flex of your left leg so you can coil and store energy on it.its ok to have some lateral movement , but it should be from the result of coiling your trunk. imagine youre in a barrell , and try to stay surronded by it throughout the swing.
This is pretty much what I saw too. Keep that left knee bent on you backswing and concentrate on turning your hips rather than swaying them backward, then end with them uncoiling so that your belt buckle faces your target.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 05:35 PM
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I think that your big swaying backswing is what causes the problem. The reason you're hooking it is that your body doesn't come back all the way to where it was when you started, so your hands get ahead of your body and cause you to pull it to the right.

It's possible to keep that swaying motion as long as you get back to where you started from exactly at the right time, but that's so impossible to be consistent with that you really just need to get rid of it.

Your power comes primarily from the unwinding action of the swing, not from a lean. If you want to see an example of this, take a full swing just winding up and not shifting your weight at all, then compare it to how far you hit it if you don't turn at all but just shift your weight. No comparison.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 11:55 PM
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You are sliding way too much and your weight is all on your back foot. It should be 60/40 (front/back) at the start. Maybe a little more or less depending whats conmfortable. This will give u a more stable base.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 12:07 AM
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I recently posted my swing on this website and got some great comments...so thanks y'all. I went to the driving range, and I've already got my drives a little straighter and further (and I'm even hooking it!) Finally not slicing every time :)

Here's another swing to evaluate...see what you think. It's going out a hundred and fifty yards, maybe a little more, and then all of a sudden BAM--it takes a complete left turn and is OB. Why would this be? See what you can figure out from video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xRWFBGKLQ

Thanks in advance for your help ;)
The other swing you posted was a right-handed swing, this is a left-handed swing! If both of these are yours I suggest you go back to playing right-handed!
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Old August 16th, 2006, 02:04 PM
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The other swing you posted was a right-handed swing, this is a left-handed swing! If both of these are yours I suggest you go back to playing right-handed!

Haha sorry straightshooter---my mistake for the confusion. This is my father =D He saw all the feedback and wanted to see what he could fix with his swing...so he had me post a video of him =D As much as I'd like to be, I am not ambidextrious.
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Old August 16th, 2006, 08:48 PM
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Haha sorry straightshooter---my mistake for the confusion. This is my father =D He saw all the feedback and wanted to see what he could fix with his swing...so he had me post a video of him =D As much as I'd like to be, I am not ambidextrious.
OK. I guess your father didn't like my advice much then! I will try again:

The extreme sliding back and forth has got to go. The swing should be more of a rotary motion. The stance should be less wide (and this is coming from someone with a wide stance!).
Also, the ball shouldn't be muscled into the fairway. Every body part looks tense, stiff, locked, rigid. Instead all body parts should be loose, and the swing should be a nice fluid motion. The latter approach leads to much more distance (which may seem counterintuitive) and accuracy.
Despite the above problems, which are fairly serious, your dad does a remarkable job at getting back to the ball, so there is some potential there. I am guessing your dad used to play baseball, or still does.
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Old August 16th, 2006, 09:32 PM
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bend your knees, keep that back leg from straightening, you really need to turn at the hips. instead of swaying back, start your backswing with your hip rotation. it will feel VERY awkward at first.
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Old August 17th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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You are definitely coming over the top because your swing is way too steep. You need to flatten it out more. Did you hit a pull or a pull slice? One thing I like to visualize when I am hitting a driver or fairway wood is to have the shaft touch my shoulder on the backswing. It never does, but it helps me create the necessary sweeping swing plane for the driver or fairway wood. Also, to shift my weight properly, I exaggerate the motion. I lift my front heel on my backswing so that my weight is on my back foot. Then, as I start turning with my hips, I try to get my weight on my front toes to get my weight forward. I hope this helps.
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Old August 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM
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Warning! The following advice is for a lefty. Righties need to reverse it.

Get that grip fixed! It is the root cause of your 'open' clubface at impact. You are picking the club up too steep in backswing because that's the only way you can support it at the top with the 'V' of your left hand - this will also cause you to close the face (looking at the ground) in the backswing and necessitate an opening of the face through the ball. Curve balls are caused mainly by an open or closed face angle in relation to the path. Shoulder alignment at impact affects the path of the clubhead and grip affects the face angle.

Get that left hand more over your right thumb in your setup. Take some practice baseball swings to train your forearms to cross over through the ball. The more relaxed your forearms the easier it is to cross them over.

That is a start. Now you will need to tighten your turn, so hit some 7 irons off a short tee with your feet about 4 - 5 inches apart. Think 'windup' not tilt or sway. Weight will go to left heel in backswing and right heel in throughswing. If you sway you'll loose your balance.

After you start to feel more centrifugal force (club pulling out on your hands through the ball) you can widen your stance back out (a bit at a time) until the middle of your left foot (lefties) is split by a line directly below the outside of your left shoulder.

This should help, but it still isn't a substitute for lessons.

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