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Old August 18th, 2006, 07:19 PM
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Head Position at Impact (irons)

I had a lesson today and the pro noticed that at impact i was moving backwards very slightly hence my reverse c finish ,the pro put me into the impact positon hands ahead of the ball wieght well on the front leg and suprsingly my head in front of the ball , now i'm not qualified to question him ,but i thought the head stayed over the ball is this right or is this where i've been going wrong all this time ? i should have asked at the time but i had a head full all sorts . I'm talking with a iron here.
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Old August 18th, 2006, 08:25 PM
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There are many different swings that are being taught today...maybe this one is not for you...the impact position sounds similar to a swing being taught by whatisname (?)...had a big feature article in a golf magazine last year about the groundbreaking inroads that were being made in the evolvement of the golf swing, yada yada...supposed to give more distance and accuracy, for me it produced longer shots mainly due to the fact that the face was delofted at impact...I have been working on my swing and now firmly keep my head behind the ball, moving backwards slightly after impact and can hit a 7 iron 190 if I go after it with a high ball flight...if it is a weaker position as the article stated, I'll keep it...the article did state however that less stress was placed on the back and hips with this new swing...I will look and see if the article is hanging around somewhere and post a link...
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Old August 18th, 2006, 10:07 PM
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Is your pro trying to fix a reverse pivot?
Did your pro positively move your head in front of the ball, or was this an unintended side effect of what he was really trying to do? Head in front of the ball doesn't sound like the greatest idea, though with the shortest irons you might get about even with the ball.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 12:09 AM
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you pro is right on the money. always keep in mind, the club head will bottom out opproximately where your head is, so, in order to have your divot start past the ball, your head must be positioned slightly in front of the ball at impact. with woods, it should be slightly behind the ball.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 10:53 AM
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you pro is right on the money. always keep in mind, the club head will bottom out opproximately where your head is, so, in order to have your divot start past the ball, your head must be positioned slightly in front of the ball at impact. with woods, it should be slightly behind the ball.
I disagree. The clubhead bottoms out opposite the left armpit (for a right-handed swing). With the shortest irons/wedges (which have the most 'shaft-lean-back', and are played with the ball in the middle of the stance) the center of your head may be almost opposite the ball, but with the mid irons and long irons the center of your head should be clearly behind the ball. All of this may just be a matter of perception: It is pretty hard to accurately gauge the ball position with respect to the head position while standing over the ball. I recommend that you use the vertical edge of a full-length mirror to check out your relative ball and head positions at address and posed-impact. You may be surprised how different reality is from perception.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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I mailed my pro, to ask him this question and this was his reply .
"The head should be ahead of the ball at impact as the momentum from
the weight transfer causes you to edge ahead."

But i have to agree with you straightshooter , in fact the amount my head is ahead of the ball now is very minimal, as i was hanging back with my head/wieght, the new position feels ailien to me and the feel is magnified by this, just goes to show the saying "feel & real can be miles apart ".
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Old August 20th, 2006, 11:30 AM
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I mailed my pro, to ask him this question and this was his reply .
"The head should be ahead of the ball at impact as the momentum from
the weight transfer causes you to edge ahead."

But i have to agree with you straightshooter , in fact the amount my head is ahead of the ball now is very minimal, as i was hanging back with my head/wieght, the new position feels ailien to me and the feel is magnified by this, just goes to show the saying "feel & real can be miles apart ".
I disagree with your pro, and I am surprised he is giving you this advice. It seems to me that he is promoting power loss. Then again I am not a pro, and I would like to see some of GR's resident golf-pros weigh in on this issue.

Look at this 9i swing sequence by Nick Price:

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...0312price.html

Cover the right side of the image with a piece of paper, with the vertical left edge of the paper at the center of his ball, and play the movie. Nick's nose remains behind the ball from address through impact.
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