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I am talking about 113-123 yard type holes. i find i get a better "feel" and more consistency without a tee, even real short tees ...using a short iron....i have seen pros on the tele say " if you got a chance to make a better lie always take it with a tee".. but now i am doubting this ....

Yep, I tee it up every single time I'm on the tee. Why not take advantage of the opportunity for a perfect lie?

To each their own though...a regular golf buddy of mine never tees it up with an iron, any iron.

It all depends how I'm hitting the ball and how I feel. Earlier this summer I couldn't hit a decent tee shot on those short "wedge" par 3s if I teed up the ball, so I played it right off the turf. Right now, I feel I hit a better tee shot and get better contact from taking the opportunity to give the ball a perfect lie by using a tee.

So you see, there's no rhyme or reason (at least for me) about using a tee or not on those short "wedge" par 3s, it just about how you're playing and how you feel you're playing.

113-123 would put me in the gap wedge area so I would tee it up, but just a little bit. I would shove the tee all the way down to where just the top of it comes up. I don't face too many of these short shots on the tee boxes though. got me second guessing my self and I am not even playing Ok depending on the wind, if the wind is coming at me I won't tee it up. If its helping me I may look at either taking an easier swing or a Sw and letting the wind take it. Cross wind I will tee it up so I can send it high in the air and let the wind do its job.

I tee it up every chance I get. Figure that out of a round of golf, you're only permitted a "perfect" lie 18 times. Take advantage of it, I say. You'll never be able to blame the result on the lie though. LOL....

I agree with the "whatever feels good" sentiment but, for me, the determining factor is spin...if I want a lot of spin for a slick green I hit from the turf or teed very low...for less spin I tee it higher and hit it with a more sweeping motion (which usually flies higher, as well). Also depends on the condition of the tee box.

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I try to find a nice lie in the tee box and don't use a tee. The lie in a tee box is usually shorter than fairway length and you can usually find a good lie. An iron is meant to be hit down and through and if I tee it up I tend to scoop up on it. I have a buddy that uses a tee all the time and he hits it thin a lot because he can't understand the concept of hitting down and through.

ill tee it up but basically put the top of the tee level with the ground since its a Pw.

I am just now getting my distance dialed in so I just play it off the ground to make sure I get what i am expecting out of the club. Seems like when I tee it up I loose a little distance. Once I am confident with my distances then I will try to factor in another situation into my shot making.

I always use a tee exept on chipping courses were i find it benifits my short game

If it's a long par 3, where a 2,3,4 iron is required, I teel the ball up just above the ground. If it's a wedge type shot, I use a tee, but just to ground level, so the ball is flush with the turf.

I alway use a tee, usually a broken one and tee it just above the turf. I have gone to no tee on occassion when I find myself "picking" the ball instead of hitting down & through.

This is why I stopped teeing it up with irons, especially short irons. I would always hit thin shots when tee'd up. To me if I tee up with an iron it's a different shot and looks weird at address. All of my practicing and playing involves hitting irons off the turf, so when all of a sudden the ball is sitting above the grass; I think it takes away the normal shot that you're used to.

that short, no, reason being, i just do not feel comfortable hitting a wedge off of a tee, i just dont. i find whenever i tee it up with a wedge i tend to skull it.

I always tee it up, but my buddy does not. It's simply personal preference. I saw on the Champions Tour where one guy said the playing conditions of the greens and wind would dictate whether he tees it up or not on par 3's. Because the tee will allow a higher flight and softer landing with less backspin, it's not the best for windy days. If you can, and want to spin it back on the green because you know your club is a little longer than the pin placement, don't tee it up so you can get more backspin. Simple enough, I guess.

As for those who say they hit it shorter with their irons when they use a tee... try this the next time you're hitting practice shots with your irons...
Look at the front edge of the ball (the left side of the ball for right-handers) when you're swinging. I used to look at the top-center of the ball and I had more of a sweeping motion when i hit. I've started looking at the front edge of the ball and I've started hitting down on the ball just a little more and not only have I noticed more backspin, but I've noticed more distance, too. Just a thought.