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Old September 27th, 2006, 03:27 PM
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Such thing as too far inside??

My last several rounds, I've been really concentrating on dropping my hands and really bringing the club on an inside path, then releasing the club once it's parallel to the ground on the downswing. Sounds good right? Well now I'm hitting all my irons off the toe- 80% of the time- with the occasional beauty. Woods have been pretty good. Not the irons.

So, I got closer to the ball, no help- still off the toe. Is there a such thing as bringing the club too far inside so that I'm not even able to reach the ball? I haven't hit a fat or heel shot in a long time on a good note. Thanks.
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Old September 27th, 2006, 03:35 PM
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Yep, there is such a thing and it usually results in an ou-to-in swing path on the way back. This could be one reason why you are hitting the ball on the toe of the club. Best thing you can do (if possible) is to get infront of a mirror and check your angles to get a feel of what the correct swing plane is. Only other thing I can think of is that you are casting the club or releasing early enough to where the toe of the club is the first thing through the impact area. What is your general shot shape/miss/etc now?
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Old September 27th, 2006, 04:05 PM
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All my shots off the toe go way short and to the left. When I pure it, it's a high hook, a high fade (almost a slice), or it's dead center. I know that this is a timing, face angle, or a release point problem, which I can correct. What burns me is the constant toe shots.
Even if I hit my irons left or right, if I get nice swing, distance, and pure contact out of a stroke, I'm much more satisfied than with these miserable toe shots- this is what I need to rid myself of now.
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Old September 27th, 2006, 05:42 PM
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I would try putting the ball back in your stance a touch
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Old September 30th, 2006, 11:30 PM
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My last several rounds, I've been really concentrating on dropping my hands and really bringing the club on an inside path, then releasing the club once it's parallel to the ground on the downswing. Sounds good right? Well now I'm hitting all my irons off the toe- 80% of the time- with the occasional beauty. Woods have been pretty good. Not the irons.

So, I got closer to the ball, no help- still off the toe. Is there a such thing as bringing the club too far inside so that I'm not even able to reach the ball? I haven't hit a fat or heel shot in a long time on a good note. Thanks.
Yes. It is possible to swing too far to the inside. However, if you're not hooking the ball badly, you probably haven't gotten to that point yet. I've been there, and it's not pretty.
My solution: I set my shoulders up square to the ball, and aligned with the target. I place the club behind the ball, with the face square to the target. My front foot, I set up 1 1/2" closer to the ball than my left. This works for me, as it's eliminated my fade/slice, and has promoted a nice draw.
The reasoning for this is that, with the front foot slightly forward, it's nearly impossible to get outside-in with the path of the swing. This allows me to use what feels like a natural swing, and not worry about taking the club inside so much.
If you decide to try this, please let me know how it works out for you.
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Old October 1st, 2006, 03:28 AM
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Yes. It is possible to swing too far to the inside. However, if you're not hooking the ball badly, you probably haven't gotten to that point yet. I've been there, and it's not pretty.
My solution: I set my shoulders up square to the ball, and aligned with the target. I place the club behind the ball, with the face square to the target. My front foot, I set up 1 1/2" closer to the ball than my left. This works for me, as it's eliminated my fade/slice, and has promoted a nice draw.
The reasoning for this is that, with the front foot slightly forward, it's nearly impossible to get outside-in with the path of the swing. This allows me to use what feels like a natural swing, and not worry about taking the club inside so much.
If you decide to try this, please let me know how it works out for you.
thanks. Your resolution is simply how to hit a draw. My problem it hitting off the end (toe) of my irons. If I swung "outside in", I'd hit the heel of the club. I've tried what you said, and it seems to breed an in-accurate ball flight- sometimes it draws, sometimes it heads straight, sometimes it pushes. I just want to know why I'm constantly hitting the ball off the toe of my club.

One more round like this and I'll lose it . thanks.
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 10:28 PM
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Well I struggled with this probelem for a long time until about a year ago. the majority of my shots were weak and off the toe with the occassional straight one. Had my swing evaluated thru video. I was shocked. I had always thought i made a shoulder turn thru out my downswing but i didn't. What i did was drop my arms down correctly but I restricted my shoulder turn thru the hitting are. This caused my left arm to "shorten" and "pull" behind my body thus resulting in a toe hit. Somestimes if i didn't time it right I would cast and hit fat. Basically my shoulders weren't turning and my arms were separating from my body during the downswing .
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 10:42 PM
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Thanks, I'll try this with my shoulders. If I ever get around to getting my swing video-taped, I'll get it here. Thanks.
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 03:31 PM
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This one is kind of hard to diagnose without seeing your swing. I would want to see your alignment and divot pattern if you take one.

jh had a very good point about your shoulder turn as well.

Go to the range. Lay a club parallel left to a specific target. MAKE SURE your feet and shoulders are perfectly in line with this club. Check your divot pattern, contact, and ball flight over twenty or thirty shots. This should give you (and us) a better idea of what is going on.
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