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Old October 16th, 2006, 04:11 PM
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Question power move?

Just read an artical in Golf Magazine called The Instant Power Move.It sounds enteresting.I may try it when I get back on my feet.Anyone tried it,did it work?
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Old October 16th, 2006, 07:49 PM
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I've tried it a few times, even before the Golf Magazine article came out. It will give you some extra power, but you really have to time it correctly for it to work properly. For the average golfer, I think it's a bad idea to ingrain into your swing. Just my . It's worth messing around with to see how if works for you.
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Old October 16th, 2006, 08:07 PM
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I don't think it's a bad idea at all. I've said it before in another thread about this same subject, but this really isn't some big secret. All you're doing is releasing the clubhead through impact. This is the move that has got to happen to square the clubface or even get that draw spin that everyone is looking for. It's not something that someone just came up with yesterday.

Doing this consciously does take a lot of practice, but what part of golf doesn't take a lot of practice? Can't think of one aspect that doesn't. If you are just starting the game this whole concept might be hard for you to grasp, but again it just takes practice. If you're already a decent golfer with good fundamentals, and you're hitting shots a little right of the target (assuming you're alignment is correct) then chances are you are not releasing the clubhead and making a conscious effort to do so by performing this "power move" will straighten out your shots. After some practice, you wont have to think about it and it will become second nature to do it.

Where people get confused with this "power move" is they swing and have the clubface really open on the way back and most of the downswing and then right before impact they try to flip their wrists over. This move is bad and is very hard to duplicate consistantly. It's got to be kind of a graduate motion of the hands and wrists releasing through the downswing.
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Old October 16th, 2006, 09:51 PM
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I've realized in my swing that if I use that "power move", I will more than likely pull it or pull slice it. Using my arms and my hands to power the swing pulls the club on an out to in path. When I use my hips and torso to power it and let the club swing freely, I hit it straight or with a slight fade. If I have to think about doing that when I swing, I will more than likely mess up my round. Just remember that some of the top golfers play a fade.
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Old October 16th, 2006, 10:26 PM
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I've realized in my swing that if I use that "power move", I will more than likely pull it or pull slice it. Using my arms and my hands to power the swing pulls the club on an out to in path. When I use my hips and torso to power it and let the club swing freely, I hit it straight or with a slight fade. If I have to think about doing that when I swing, I will more than likely mess up my round. Just remember that some of the top golfers play a fade.
The thing is that when you swing with your hips and torso as you say and swing freely, you're still using this "power move". If you didn't, every one of your shots would be heading out to right field. It's just that when you actually think about doing this power move, you take all the free flowing movement out of your swing and you start the downswing with your hands and shoulders really trying to go at it with your hands (hence: the over the top pull).

I watched an interview with Jack Nicklaus once where he talked about this move. He told said something to the effect that he is always aware of the clubhead in his swing. Once he gets to the top of his backswing it's almost as if everything is in slow motion and he can feel the hands start to supinate (spelling?) as he starts the downswing.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 01:38 PM
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The thing is that when you swing with your hips and torso as you say and swing freely, you're still using this "power move". If you didn't, every one of your shots would be heading out to right field. It's just that when you actually think about doing this power move, you take all the free flowing movement out of your swing and you start the downswing with your hands and shoulders really trying to go at it with your hands (hence: the over the top pull).

I watched an interview with Jack Nicklaus once where he talked about this move. He told said something to the effect that he is always aware of the clubhead in his swing. Once he gets to the top of his backswing it's almost as if everything is in slow motion and he can feel the hands start to supinate (spelling?) as he starts the downswing.
I know I do this move subconsciously. It's the natural part of the swing. But like Maverick said, "If you think, you're dead." I actually prefer to fade the ball, and I've been actually trying to decrease the right hands involvement upon impact. Vijay, Freddie, and Phil do this and they all hit it 300+. You can see after impact that their right hand (left hand for Phil) almost comes off the club after impact. I read that they do this as an anti-hook move, which makes sense, as the back hand is what flips the club over. I'm sure that this "Power Move" that AJ describes has relevence, but when the magazines interview the long ball hitters, they all say that the majority of their power comes from their core muscles and to keep the wrists and arms loose.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 02:54 PM
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Well the whole move really doesn't have a lot to with your right hand. It's more or less talking about your left hand (for the right handed golfer). Through impact, the left hand has to start rotating so that the knuckles are pointed down to the ground. The right hand is just basically along for the ride as it doesn't do much. They were talking about this last night on the golf channel academy. Morgan Pressell's coach taught her this move when she was 9 years old by telling her to "catch the rain drops" meaning that on the follow through when your swing is at waist level, your left palm should be rotated up to the sky so that you could "catch rain drops" if it were raining.

The thing that needs to be pointed out is that it's really only a "power move" for those people that just started playing the game or really have no idea what goes on in the golf swing. Someone like you and I who have probably been around golf quite a while (18 years for me), know what has to happen in the golf swing to square the clubface. Every decent golfer already does this move really without thinking about it and is probably why when you actually try to do it and really think about it that you get all out of whack. It's because in your normal swing you're already doing it, but when you "think about it" you're really overdoing it and causing problems. I think the drill is really just for those who don't do it at all or have no idea that you need to do that to square the face.

Check out some of these swings...the frame right after impact it shows they all do it.

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...206sergio.html

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...1ernieels.html

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...507goosen.html

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ijaysingh.html

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...mickelson.html
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Old October 17th, 2006, 07:47 PM
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BJ sold millions on this saying everyone else was teaching it wrong and other teachers saying this was no secret and BJ is a darn good salesman.

1. If you're unconsciously doing it - don't change
2. If you slice - Try it and see if you improve

It is a matter of degree. For those who fades and draw at will knows the difference. When we try to fade, we try not to release it. The fact is we still do it but less. When we draw, we do it more. During one of the interviews, Tiger said ( to get the extra distance ) " I really flipped it ".

So it's nothing new. It's hard for me to time it consistently but I do it when I try to draw. Only thing I can say is TRY. If it works, it'll give you more distance or let you sqaure the club face..It gives you wonderfully crisp feeling in fact. Only problem is that I'm not the same golfer everytime I play because I only play once a week if lucky. Depends on what I did previous night ( or week ), my flexibility or timing can be vastly different. And for me, predictability of the shots I play, is the most important thing to my scoring.
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