Intentional fades requires more club than normal right?
If I hit my 8 iron straight for 130 yards normally and I now want to fade it to the same target 130 yards away, I find myself needing a 7 iron. This is normal right since a fade is a glancing blow that takes some energy away from the swing.
Another question is: does drawing the ball add more distance to a club than if I were to hit it straight?
A fade generally has more backspin due to a slightly open clubface. This backspin creates a higher lift to thrust ration, causing the ball to rise high. When it reaches it's apex, the ball stalls and drops. With a draw, the spin isn't as high and causes a lower, more piercing trajectory. Also, with less spin, it gives less resistance once the ball contacts the ground, allowing more roll. That is why a draw travels farther than a fade.
If golf was as technically accurate as desribed above, I would not play at all.
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Interesting...El Tigre seems to think that a fade goes farther than a draw does these days, thanks to ball technology. I think I agree with him on this.
Many years ago this wasn't the case though as the balls were much softer, and in order to gain a few more yards a draw (approaching a hook) was in order. Some of the games' biggest hitters today, are faders of the ball.
I'm with Tiger, at least off the tee. If you can show me how to hit my 9 iron 140, 137, and 144 on cue, come teach me.
You're thinking too much if you're trying to shape each shot you play anyways. If you can have a swing that turns the ball one way every time, golf is a LOT less stressful. My best golf is a fade all day long. I can draw it if I have to, but I won't be able to be as precise with the amount of curvature. The same goes for the boys on tour.
So no, a fade goes no shorter than a draw. Fades land soft and sit up, draws become hooks and keep rolling left until the find somewhere ****** to end up.
Last edited by wazmankg : December 21st, 2006 at 01:09 PM.
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on a calm day or with the breeze to your back, i would say ,no, not much of a distance loss, but with a breeze into the face,, then you'll see a noticable difference.
yeah there is a difference but it's not a full club...maybe 5 yards will seperate a draw and a fade with an 8 iron....given the proper trajectory of course....i mean if you sky the fade and blade the draw the difference could be significant....
i work the ball either way and unless like the guy above said, there's a wind i dont change clubs...there's not that much difference in the trajectory and maybe i lose 2 yards on the fade as opposed to the straight shot...and likewise i may gain 2 yards with the draw......
unless you're hitting 3 iron or woods the roll isn't that significant either.... i have hit 6 iron draws into greens that spun back a bit....
besides if Tiger seems to think there's no real difference, who are we to question him.....he may know a thing or two about the game
Think it was this last year's Champion's Clinic in which he said that he knows he is striking the ball well when he is fading the ball by impacting it on the inside of the ball. I've gone back and forth between being a fader of the ball and a drawer and have found that for me the fade and the draw off the tee is about the same...it just gets there differently. The draw is lower and has a decent amount of roll, and the fade is a lot higher and still has a different amount roll. I have found for me though, it is much easier and to control the amount of draw on the ball, but a fade fits my eye better and gets my swing out of whack by having me go more and more outside-in swing plane to the point to where I start shanking. Anyone know how to properly groove a fade swing?
Think it was this last year's Champion's Clinic in which he said that he knows he is striking the ball well when he is fading the ball by impacting it on the inside of the ball. I've gone back and forth between being a fader of the ball and a drawer and have found that for me the fade and the draw off the tee is about the same...it just gets there differently. The draw is lower and has a decent amount of roll, and the fade is a lot higher and still has a different amount roll. I have found for me though, it is much easier and to control the amount of draw on the ball, but a fade fits my eye better and gets my swing out of whack by having me go more and more outside-in swing plane to the point to where I start shanking. Anyone know how to properly groove a fade swing?
Vijay said "When I clear my hips fast, I can swing as hard as I want, and the ball never goes left." The hardest hitting faders in the game do this. JD, Fred Couples, JB Holmes, Bubba Watson.
December 9th, 2006, 08:56 PM
...El Tigre seems to think that a fade goes farther than a draw does these days, thanks to ball technology. I think I agree with him on this.
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