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Works for me too. I knew of it thanks to this thread (so thank you for posting! ), then I went to the Golf Digest's link. Tried it, loved it and adopted it. Now my 3 and 4 irons are not the challenge they used to be anymore. I only use it with irons, but it helped me with my weight shift with the driver and long woods.

However, for people satisfied with their current swing, I don't see a reason to change.

If you watch Tiger's swing closely when he swings properly, he is adopting this swing. Modern golf is changing to this technique, however, Andy and Mike just have a different way of teaching it. For everyone that said "this swing doesn't work," you understand the pro's executing this swing for a living hit balls for 4 - 5 hours a day on minimum? You don't practice nearly as much.

This is an amazing method when perfected. Like everything in golf, it will never ever be perfect. Some days you have it, some days you won't.

I've decided to try the Stack and Tilt and so far the results are very promising. I am a bit concerned though as far as my short irons and wedges go, I am worried about the spin......Obviously my ball flight is lower than before, de-lofting the face of course from the swing, and I know it should change the amount of spin, but how much? When researching this swing I've never heard too much about spin and how much there should be or how much should be lacking........

ja

I've gotten alot more spin with the short irons and wedges... something I was incapable of doing with the standard swing. I surprised myself last weekend with the GW and SW out of the rough and sand. I got a more powerful jump out of the bunker. When the ball landed on the green it had enough backspin to stop a few feet left of the pin. It usually rolls past the cup from the sand. Not any more!

I hit my Gap Wedge 100 yards from the rough. The ball went 20 yds past the cup and stuck two feet behind the ball mark. Never before had I been able to hit the GW more than 75 yds from any lie.

I also hit a low shot with my PW from under a branch to the green. The ball skidded a few times then abruptly stopped just before the flag stick. My friends were shocked.... they had never seen that from me. . . . and neither had I . . .

I even get some backspin with my 7 and 8 irons. It's nice to land on a green from 135 yds out and stick it.

I'm going to try to do this today on the driving range...when I think about it, this move seems to fit my swing because I like to tuck my right elbow and take away to the inside....its just that I do a weight shift to the right instead of keeping the weight on the left or tilting the spine to the left...that's why I think I'm not consistent in hitting the ball, my mis hits are often behind the ball when I hit it.

I don't know if I am doing it correctly or maybe just a variation of it. With my mid and short Irons I am placing most of my weight on my front foot to begin with that way i don't have to make a big weight transfer from from back to front. The result is that I am hitting the ball cleaner and farther with the fat shots eliminated. Now if I can remember to do that on the course. I swing normal with Driver and Fairway Woods because the swing arc is longer and I have more time to get the weight transfered back to the front foot.
Anyway this makes sense to me and i will keep working at this it always seems that with the Irons i was late in the transfer and hit fat too often.

I tried S&T on the range today...at first it worked out well, I was able to hit the ball fine. I rested for I while, after my rest I felt like I lost the whole concept of the swing, I felt that I was swaying too much trying to get the right movement and flexing of the legs...

I read the article again....the more I read and analyzed the article the more complicated the swing became.....well, to cut the long story short, I came to a conclusion that this is a tough swing to learn if you do not have someone watching you and teaching you the right moves and just doing it by yourself basing everything on what you have seen on a video or read in a magazine, you might just destroy your whole swing altogether...

But what I did was I just took some of the good points of the S&T, well, points that I felt I understood enough to do and just incorporated it to my present swing.

Points like:

1) not swaying or shifting weight too much to the right on the backswing that you have to bring it all back to the left on the downswing, just maintaining a solid balance through out the swing.
2) rotating the shoulders like a fan during the swing
3) having an inside path on the backswing and keeping the right elbow tucked all through out the swing until after impact.
I removed the tilt and the leg movements and all the other stuff as well...

What do you guys think?

I'll try it on the course tomorrow and see what happens.

I think it would be best to learn from an instructor who teaches it. After all we had instructors teach us the conventional swing to make sure we were using the right movements. Although as I mentioned above I think I might be using a variation of it which is something I worked out on my own. I think with the shorter clubs and thus the shorter swing arc some us us aren't quick enough to move all the weight front to back and back again causing inconsistant contact like thin and fat shots. So I just cheat and don't move much weight to the back but still make a good turn so the pivot is shorter and quicker. This way I am making solid contact more consistently.
Funny thing is people in the past like Ben Hogan and Byron Nelson had to invent their own swings. They had to be their own swing coaches.

Both me and my 17 yr old son are working together with the S&T. It definitely helps when there is another person to help you out.

The S&T is a very simple swing. There are way less mechanics than there is with the standard swing.

For those who think it's the way to go, keep working on it. It'll work out eventually. Remember, no swing was built in a day. Use patience and you will be rewarded.

billybogey, if its okay, can you simplify in a few steps (in the swing) how the swing works?
The article might be too technical for me and I don't know if I'm really following it correctly.

I might just give it a try one more time... Thanks!

Oh man . . . please don't make me do that!

If you have the Golf Digest S&T article, read and study it. Go step by step. Study the photos.
Pull out the PocketTips booklet and study that too. It is simplified for your convenience.

Bring the booklet to the driving range. Bring a friend to the range. Have him/her help you
with the stance. If you can't make it to the range, practice the stance in front of a large mirror,
or have someone videotape you doing the stance and swing.

Have faith... the S&T is a lot easier to understand than you might think.

Yeah so like others obviously, i have decided to give the S&T a go. I think most of my success has been through athleticism, which like many cases can only get you so far. I've struggled with consistency, seeing some very good low numbers and some disgustingly high numbers. So just from imitating and studying up on the article, i've found some great results. Like I posted earlier I was worried about the spin, but that was previous to my round today, the first round I have implemented the S&T. Wow what promising results the S&T swing has......I struck the ball so solidly and hit the ball very straight. I shot a 79, lowest in almost a year, and due to some very poor putting, I think that round could have easily been par or better, that was the potential this swing has given me. I'm not going to get too ahead of myself just yet, but the potential is there and the results are already showing. Great stuff, I recommend this to anyone willing to learn(despite what someone on YouTube says). I'll keep everyone updated with more results.

JA

To answer an earlier question, I tried it on the range several times, hit some great six irons, but it broke down on me during play. I've also been trying and am more committed to the one plane moe norman swing. I've found that to be easier to adopt and fewer moving parts with the one plane. S&T seemed much more foreign. I'm improving with the one plane swing so plan to stick with that for the summer, i'm gaining more ground with that technique than with the S&t. I'm sure some players may do better with s&t...everyone is different, I don't think there is one perfect swing for all...I hate how some teachers jam that down your throat.

That . . . is the Statement of the Day!

That's what I try to tell people. Why be so one-sided and not want to try something to improve your game?

I tried the Moe-Natural swing technique a couple of years ago. While it was simple and effective, I could not
get any distance off the clubface. Then I went back to the current modern swing, which didn't help any more.
Then when I found out about the S&T swing thru Golf Digest, I thought, "Why not try it? What do I have to lose?"
So I tried it, and wadda-ya-know... I found the swing that fits me!

Until I find something better (don't count on it, me ) I'll be staying with the S&T.

I'm glad you tried it out, then found it was not for you. Imagine the loads of people that won't bother,
even though their swing and scores are not what they desire.

Well, we finally get to see Aaron Baddeley all day today using the new swing, and here he goes rushing it and making bad shots.

Hope you guys are watching him anyway... when he's on it, it is the coolest looking shot.

The swing is powerful and the trajectory is low. The ball is checking up nice on these ice capade greens!

I'm pulling for Badds all the way to the trophy. Wouldn't it be nice to see him in the winners circle using the S&T?