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The latest copy of Golf Digest had Baddley swinging on top of the golf ball. This is not new, the old guys knew all these ( Turn & Turn back in a barrell a.k.a Hogan etc.. ) until someone started that the head must stay back ( Modern Swing theory ). Now I'm much more comfortable with Turn & Turn ( Stack & Tilt ). I was always suspicious about staying back because it was hard for me to execute especially for irons. Anyway, my question to you all is " Is S&T only applicable to iron shots? How about Driver swing where you need some uppercut? "

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I think S&T should be applicable to all shots. A more forward ball position for driver shots should take care of catching the ball on the upswing. You might not necessarily make your turn 'over the ball' in that case though.

The wat the article reads, I think every club outside the putter is for this swing.

My 17 yr old son read the article. Halleluja! He's finally reading Golf magazines!

He is going to try the new swing this weekend at the range. He's been practicing it on the
driving mat here at home. He thinks this will help his swing more than hinder it.

He and I think the current modern day swing has too many parts to break down. So we're
going to try it out and see what happens. I think it will work.

I think it's more natural way. Only danger I can think of is it's easier to OTT with S&T if you don't know how to release your hip to begin with..

For those of you scracthing your head what all this is about. here is a link to the article:

GolfDigest.com - The New Tour Swing

This is the new swing that I put into place but didn't know someone had a name for it. I use it with all clubs and I can really turn through on my driver now. I had to narrow my stance some to ensure I got the proper hip rotation or I would pull my shots left with irons and fade or slice the driver. Now I just ensure I turn really quick with the hips leading the driver swing and I can let it rip.

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Now isn't this confusing a new way to swing just when I gort the old way almost comepletely up.

Alrighty then . . . me and the kid tried out the new Stack & Tilt swing today at the local par 3 course.

It was crazy windy on the San Francisco Bay today. 20 mph winds with gusts up to about 30mph. Late afternoons on the SF Bay. Three holes faced the wind (the longest holes, of course! 120, 150 & 165 yds), three holes with the wind, two holes with a right wind, and one hole into a left facing wind. It was so windy I had to use a hybrid to get to the 165 yd 6th green!

Shot a 36 on the par 27 (2 pars, one triple, the rest 4's), and the son shot a 35... but the scores meant nothing today. It's the new swing that means everything right now. We hit about 50 balls at the range to "get used" to the funny swing. I am a 90's shooter, so bogey/double bogey golf is quite normal for me.

So the first thing to say is . . . This Swing Works! I'm in my early fifties and my body is not a flexible as it used to be. Even with stretch and strength exercises I can't get around the plynth like I used to. With this swing, it is easier to get around on the backswing. I can stay on top of the ball instead of back swinging away from, then "sliding" back to the ball.

Contact with the ball was crisper than I am used to. I can use my hands better to get down on the ball. The downswing is steeper, and when I remember to keep the back arm tucked in it is easier to hit the ball first, then the grass. The divots are now where they should be . . in front of the ball! I noticed that I need to get closer to the ball at address, which is a little weird right now. I feel like I'm completely on top of the ball. If I forgot to get on top I would hit the ball on the toe of the club. It's part of the lesson.

As always, hitting into the wind was a chore. But I noticed that with the steeper downswing the ball was boring thru the wind instead of ballooning and flying up and over to the other fairway on the right. The ball had more of a tour-like trajectory. The ball flight started low, then slowly climbed up into the wind. Like a vertical banana . . .

I read only about half the Golf Digest "Stack & Tilt" article, so I have a ways to go before this swing gets better. I duffed the swing a couple of times (natural amateur move), forgetting to keep my back arm tucked in. But I am verrrrry excited about the Stack & Tilt swing.

Don't know if or by how much my scores will change, but how can I lose? I stink with the "old" modern swing anyway! I am going to stick with this new swing. It's awesome.

I've been hearing a lot about the swing these days but I haven't had the time to read that Golf Digest article. It's a little difficult to "digest" but I'll probably read it and report back on how it works for me next time I'm at the range.

It seems to be that S&T swing is very natural thing to do for short & mid irons. I have to try to see if it works for long irons and woods especially for driver. Has anyone tried it for driving?

I tried it with a driver. I could hit my driver better than I could before.

I tried the driver at the range today. It does not seem to be as easy to swing as the irons, although I did hit it straighter. It will take some time and work to get it right.

I still need to finish the S&T article. There may be some info on how to use the clubs that I have not yet read.

The S&T seems to work for the long irons as well as the fairway woods and hybrids. The swing plane changes a bit, but not all that much.

Remember, this is coming from a 90's shooter... me. So what I am gaining right now (first day) may not work for everyone, and also may not work out in the future.

This is all new to me. And so far, I like it!

There is also a video on the stack & tilt here.

GolfDigest.com - Multimedia

I also just added a Stack and Tilt wiki since it seems to be getting a lot of attention these days. If anyone has any edits or information to add, feel free to do so.

Thanks for the video link. But as I said earlier, it seems to work fine only for shorter irons ( Turn left shoulder under ) but you can't do that with longer clubs. Is there any video of S&T swing for longer clubs?