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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:08 PM
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Power Draw Wont hold Greens

Believe it or not I need to get rid of my Draw. I am a low ball hitter with a big draw ( not a hook) my shot starts right and draws into the target. I played yesterday hit all fairways and greens except the ball will not hold with draw spin. I have been trying for months to get rid of the draw to no available, unless I open the balde up at address. Had my clubs refitted also , they were bent 1* flat , didnt seem to do too much. Any suggestions would be helpful. my 5 iorn swing speed is 91 mph and driver 102 . I even changed shaft flexs on the suggestion of my clubfitter. Still the draw is present. I usually shoot between 78 -82. Thanks
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

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I have been trying for months to get rid of the draw to no available, unless I open the balde up at address.
If that works, why not use that? How far do you need to open the clubface to hit the ball straight?
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

Your scores are great! But I would find a way to hit the ball higher. My Iron shots always stick because I hit them very high even my 3 and 4 Hybrids. I have also been known to hold greens with my fairway woods. Maybe your swing isn't steep enough. Are you taking a Divot after the ball?
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

looks really open top me... It really doesnt work because I cant hold greens because of the spin
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:25 PM
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Your scores are great! But I would find a way to hit the ball higher. My Iron shots always stick because I hit them very high even my 3 and 4 Hybrids. I have also been known to hold greens with my fairway woods. Maybe your swing isn't steep enough. Are you taking a Divot after the ball?
Yes I doo take a divot not a big bever pelt.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 05:51 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

Hope you figure it out.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 06:31 PM
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What kind of ball do you use?
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Old July 26th, 2007, 09:54 PM
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I use Srixon Zur-s
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Old July 27th, 2007, 02:33 AM
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...suggestions would be helpful. my 5 iorn swing speed is 91 mph and driver 102 . I even changed shaft flexs on the suggestion of my clubfitter. Still the draw is present. I usually shoot between 78 -82. Thanks
Not that it adds to the thread, but I wonder what I am doing wrong with my irons. My driver SS is 115 MPH average and my 5-iron SS is 89 MPH... now my brain is ticking...
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Old July 27th, 2007, 03:14 AM
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Not that it adds to the thread, but I wonder what I am doing wrong with my irons. My driver SS is 115 MPH average and my 5-iron SS is 89 MPH... now my brain is ticking...
Shaft is shorter, therefore less clubhead speed potential...

The fade is hugely underrated in my opinion...everyone works so hard to learn to draw the ball, but a fade will sit were it lands, lending more overall control...

Gripping harder with the last three fingers of your left hand, opening your stance and swinging down your shoulder line, weakening your grip, opening the face, conciously cutting across the ball, ball forward slightly on a drive all can lend fade spin to the ball...
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Old July 27th, 2007, 04:21 AM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

Bump-n-run,

I obviously know why I swing slower with my 5-iron, I was commenting on the difference between my driver and 5-iron being 26 MPH and Stowe's being 11 MPH.

To get rid of the low draw...

Are you de-lofting the **** off the club? If you're swinging 90 MPH with an iron, it's hard not to hit it high. Maybe your hands are way forward at address. Try raising your left shoulder a bit above the level of your right and playing the ball in the middle or an inch forward of center. If you're hitting it that low and hooking it, you've got to have an overactive wrist rotation and probably hanging back on your right side. Release the club through impact, but weaken your grip so you don't rotate too much. Shift onto the left side. Soon you'll be hitting high fades.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 07:19 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

Thanks,
Saw a very well respected pro today. First thing he did was pull all the lead tape off my irons. The tape was there just to achieve a heavier swing weight placed in the middel of the muscle back on the iron. Now the irons are a c9 . Than he had me change to a very late wrist cock which felt really awkard.Third my grip I had a very strong right hand and than had me hit the out side quadrant of the ball to . WOW instant high cut even some slices.He than had me concentrate on hitting the back of the ball not the inner quarter I am use to focusing on . Now I have a High Cut lost about a 1/2 to 3/4 club distance on my 5 iron but I like the contol better. Any opnion on the pros tips , do they seem relevent? They seem to be working.
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

You lost 1/2-3/4 of your five iron distance? That means that if you used to hit your 5 iron 200 yards, you only hit it 50-100 yards now?

You shouldn't be losing that much distance.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

I am pretty sure that he means he lost half to 3/4 of the typical gap between his consecutively numbered irons, 5-10 yards perhaps. A reasonable and expected trade-off.
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Re: Power Draw Wont hold Greens

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Saw a very well respected pro today. First thing he did was pull all the lead tape off my irons. The tape was there just to achieve a heavier swing weight placed in the middel of the muscle back on the iron. Now the irons are a c9 . Than he had me change to a very late wrist cock which felt really awkard.Third my grip I had a very strong right hand and than had me hit the out side quadrant of the ball to . WOW instant high cut even some slices.He than had me concentrate on hitting the back of the ball not the inner quarter I am use to focusing on . Now I have a High Cut lost about a 1/2 to 3/4 club distance on my 5 iron but I like the contol better. Any opnion on the pros tips , do they seem relevent? They seem to be working.
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