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Old August 26th, 2007, 10:14 PM
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My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I have recently began to hit a lot more balls off the *cough* hosel and I decided to attempt to make a video for everyone to laugh at. The following video has 3 shots of me hitting a foam ball out back. Regular speed and then slow mo. The third shot is, well, you'll see.

Can anyone point out the major flaws? Let me tell you that I am well aware that I need to get my arms more upright and get that left arm more in line with my shoulders. It has been something that I have been struggling a lot with. I feel like I am reaching for the sky, but it turns out I am still fairly flat on the plane.

Another thing that I want to work on is making my swing longer. I have this feeling that the shorter the swing, the less time there is for something to go wrong! haha

What do you guys think? Thanks!!

Not the best quality... I hope it is enough for you guys to form an opinion.

YouTube - 8 iron: 3 different shots 8/26/07
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Old August 26th, 2007, 10:45 PM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I might be able to get more later........but just with a quick glance your swing 3 is the same as the others. Just your stance is open and thats causing you to swing outwards and hit your hosel. Fix your stance and that will fix your hosel shot. The other swings just with a quick glance is that you are trying to drop into a slot but it's just not working
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Old August 27th, 2007, 12:07 AM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

Lot of good things in your swing.You start the downswing with a quick turn and bump of the hip and your shoulder and hands basically follow the path of your short hip turn and I love the short and connected backswing..

OK the bad part about your swing is that one thing you can't do is what you basically did on that last swing and that is turning your hip outside in across the taget line..The shoulder and hands follows the outside in path and your clubface never square and you shank because you aren't handsy like lots of folks are and try to rescue shots,which normally would be a good thing.

I wouldn't change too much..I make sure your hip has the same inside out to in turn action as the first 2 and everything is all right...and I stay back a bit more.If you stay back that shank should just become a slice.But with your swing if you just get the right hip turn,everything will be fine.

Btw,there might be some folks that tell you to turn your shoulder and hip more and all that.Don't believe them..You swing with your hip and you have that lag..that is easy power and a very sound and simple swing.I can do all the other stuff and extra turn like your SUPPOSE TO DO,but it only gets me 15 more yards than having a real short backswing like yours and it should be much more consistent..Don't over-analys,you have a good and simple swing with a very simple fix imo.

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Old August 27th, 2007, 08:11 AM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

Thank you for the analysis. Every comment helps. Would you agree though that I should still bring it back on plane a little better? (It can only help with my mechanics right?) That is really what my instructor is trying to drill into me. To get those hands up near my right shoulder and get my right elbow free from my body.

Someone mentioned Sergio has a short back swing so I took a screen shot of him with a P-wedge. And then there is me. Note Sergio's Left arm aligned with the shoulders and right elbow free from the body.

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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:52 AM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

are you saying your swing looks like sergio's or thats where you want to go ?

your angle's in your arms are the same or close. But look where his arms are in compared to his shoulder. his higher up on the shoulder , while your swing is more around the tricep. Sergio's going to be able to fire down at a descending blow and be a lot flatter. your swing is going to be a sweeping blow because where your coming from.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:10 AM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I would really like to bring the club up higher. If I saw someone swing like me, I would tell myself "Boy, he really needs to bring the club up higher." Something just doesnt seem right about my arm / shoulder alignment.

By the way, you are correct, I am a sweeper and NEVER take a divot. (Wait, thats a lie, I take them 6 inches behind the ball sometimes!! OUCH)
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Old August 27th, 2007, 12:00 PM
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OK the bad part about your swing is that one thing you can't do is what you basically did on that last swing and that is turning your hip outside in across the taget line..The shoulder and hands follows the outside in path and your clubface never square and you shank because you aren't handsy like lots of folks are and try to rescue shots,which normally would be a good thing.

I wouldn't change too much..I make sure your hip has the same inside out to in turn action as the first 2 and everything is all right..
I was wondering if you could elaborate on this, please. I was not aware that your hips can turn on an outside-in or an inside-out path. Is there anywhere I can read up on this? Thanks.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I'm not sure if this is a factor or not but your left heel picks up and then you re-position you left foot. Could that indicate too much of a weight shift? or possibly your hips are sliding away from the target?
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Old August 27th, 2007, 07:56 PM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I would like to "quiet" that down a tad. It's definitely not helping my swing, I bet. haha

UPDATE:

I recorded a new swing today. I used the carboard box that my new clubs came in as a S@%#!K protector. I also focused on "nice and easy" with a calm and controlled back swing. Here is the result:

YouTube - 8 iron: 3 different speeds 8/27/07

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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:45 PM
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I was wondering if you could elaborate on this, please. I was not aware that your hips can turn on an outside-in or an inside-out path. Is there anywhere I can read up on this? Thanks.
First of all,I am a self-taught golfer and I don't read up on anything and I never had a lesson so some of terminology might be different than you are used to,but anyways...

There are a few ways to get that proper in to out action on the hip,and to me,I try to keep it simple and think of everything as inside to out with all my body joints and I try to connect the joint and swing on the same plane as far as a rotational swing like yours..without boring you with twtoo's hypothesis on mathmatical and Physics way of the golf swing and all the nonsense only I understand and care about ,the basic joint you should focus on to check your hip flaws would be the tailbone..

if you are rotating on the proper path,you should feel your tailbone rotating and pivoting and very much stationary at least till the impact position...if come oustside in with your hip rotation,you will shift the tailbone.

another way to check up on this is to check your knees,if you do a proper hip turn,your knees will come together .Notice your first 2 swings there is more rotation of the knees than the 3rd one,and that is the result of the better hip turn than the first 2.Oh,try to maintain your knee flex on your right knee on the back swing.That will also help your hip turn and stick out your butt on the setup.



A drill I would try is to take your golf stance as you normally would with your left feet against a club stuck to the ground in front the left side .Take a swing as you normally would,if you are brushing against the club you are good with your hip.Looking at your swing,you are not going to be brushing the club and I would say you are going to miss is by a decent margin.That is what happen when you come across it with your hip turn..if you are hitting the club with some force and getting your hip past your left feet,that would not be a good thing either.Brush against that club and you are good..You can also practice against a wall without a club if you like..same difference.

Btw,I actually love the fact that your elbow is constantly attached to your core and it inhibits your arm from ending up in a higher position.I think it is a good thing.You might want to work on your flexibility a bit more and turn your shoulder and hip more to get the club higher and close to parallel and maintaining your knee flex,but there is nothing wrong with a flat swing.I say great majority of the average golfer would not be able to hit it with that short of an backswing,and I dare except the most expert of players to be able generate speed with that short of a backswing.There are plenty of good players trying to stay more connected and gain greater consistency by keeping their elbow attached to their chest.You are fortunate in that comes naturally to you.there are just fewer things that can go wrong when you do that.Don't think of it as doing something wrong,I would think of it as doing something right and try to build on that.

JMO.

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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

I second Viper's comment that your stance looks open (line through feet pointing to the left of the target) in the 1st set of vids. Fixing this might fix you up quite a bit. 2nd vid looks much better. If you lay down an iron at your feet, parallel to the box, you can groove a fully aligned stance.

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Old August 28th, 2007, 08:52 AM
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Re: My 8 iron swing video. Comments needed!

Thanks guys. All of your comments help a lot. A day ago, I felt like I had zero confidence, now, with your sayings, I feel better standing over the ball.
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