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Old September 21st, 2007, 09:25 AM
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Wrist Hinge

I read a tip whereby the instructor was describing a flat versus a cupped left wrist corresponding to a weak or neutral grip versus a strong grip. Given a weak or neutral grip he explained that if you hinge the wrist straight out in front of you from the address position you should see a flat left wrist and the toe of the club straight up. Given a strong grip you should see a cup in the left wrist if you do the same hinging motion out in front of you. Ideally one should maintain these wrists positions throughout the swing to impact.

I have a neutral grip. I have been experimenting trying to get that left wrist flat. But it seem no matter how I set up and address the ball, if I hinge my wirst straight up from the set up, I always see a cupped left wrist. What am I doing wrong?
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Old September 21st, 2007, 01:24 PM
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I read a tip whereby the instructor was describing a flat versus a cupped left wrist corresponding to a weak or neutral grip versus a strong grip. Given a weak or neutral grip he explained that if you hinge the wrist straight out in front of you from the address position you should see a flat left wrist and the toe of the club straight up. Given a strong grip you should see a cup in the left wrist if you do the same hinging motion out in front of you. Ideally one should maintain these wrists positions throughout the swing to impact.

I have a neutral grip. I have been experimenting trying to get that left wrist flat. But it seem no matter how I set up and address the ball, if I hinge my wirst straight up from the set up, I always see a cupped left wrist. What am I doing wrong?
You should kill your instructor...that is way too much to think about...set your wrists at address, keep a soft grip and get to a top position where the club is aiming at where you are going to hit the ball with the toe down...then swing through the ball...the wrists will take care of themselves...
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Old September 21st, 2007, 05:13 PM
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set your wrists at address, keep a soft grip and get to a top position where the club is aiming at where you are going to hit the ball with the toe down...then swing through the ball...the wrists will take care of themselves...
Toe down at the top is an open clubface at the top.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 01:56 AM
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Tell it to Jackie Burke Jr. ....
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 03:13 AM
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Re: Wrist Hinge

One very strong suggestion. Get a David Leadbetter Swing Setter. It is an amazing swing aide and helps perfect the wrist hinge and release, as well as tempo, swing plane and it has a molded grip that makes you put your hands in the correct position

I take lessons from a guy who is the assistant coach at Cal Berkley and they make all their players get one.

Well worth the investment.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 12:16 PM
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One very strong suggestion. Get a David Leadbetter Swing Setter. It is an amazing swing aide and helps perfect the wrist hinge and release, as well as tempo, swing plane and it has a molded grip that makes you put your hands in the correct position

I take lessons from a guy who is the assistant coach at Cal Berkley and they make all their players get one.

Well worth the investment.
Thanks, I'll look into it. Getting that flat left wrist at the top is tough for me. I figure if you don't start with the wrist flat it makes it even tougher. But I have had people say that one can manipulate the wrist angles going back so that the wrist is flat at the top. But you then have to keep it that way until impact meaning that you cannot have your same address position at impact. I can see that as possible but takes a little more timing.

I am going on E-Bay. I'll bet they have a few those swing setters for sale there.
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Old September 23rd, 2007, 07:51 PM
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But you then have to keep it that way until impact meaning that you cannot have your same address position at impact.
I would hope not. At impact your weight is on the left or forward foot, hips and shoulder are open, right arm extended, and body tilting further away from the target. Put yourself in that position and your left wrist has to be flat or slightly bowed at impact.
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Old September 25th, 2007, 02:22 PM
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hbendillo, I got my swingsetter on ebay for $50 bucks which is 50% off what you will pay at Amazon or a local golf shop. I hope you find one. Working out with the swing setter for 5 minutes three times a week and two professional lessons over the past two months have taken my handicapp from 30+ to 15. That is also only playing once a month and going to the range twice a month.

The swing setter helped me perfect my grip, my wrist hinge and my tempo, which is the most important thing. By simply increasing my tempo I went form hitting my five iron 150 yeards to hitting it 190.

Best of luck!
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Old September 26th, 2007, 01:13 AM
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I read a tip whereby the instructor was describing a flat versus a cupped left wrist corresponding to a weak or neutral grip versus a strong grip. Given a weak or neutral grip he explained that if you hinge the wrist straight out in front of you from the address position you should see a flat left wrist and the toe of the club straight up. Given a strong grip you should see a cup in the left wrist if you do the same hinging motion out in front of you. Ideally one should maintain these wrists positions throughout the swing to impact.

I have a neutral grip. I have been experimenting trying to get that left wrist flat. But it seem no matter how I set up and address the ball, if I hinge my wrist straight up from the set up, I always see a cupped left wrist. What am I doing wrong?
Maintaining a "set" (same as a hinge, different term) left wrist through the end of your back-swing, transition, and beginning of your downswing will improve your consistency at impact. Depending on your grip strength, your proper corresponding wrist "set" will change as you have read.

You are not necessarily doing it wrong, your wrist will still be slightly cupped, but not as much as a strong grip. Try them both to see the difference.

THIS WILL WORK, I PROMISE YOU:


To feel the proper set or hinge for you, hold the club as you would with your left hand. Then, with your right hand, grab your left forearm just below your wrist with your thumb on top of your left forearm. Put yourself in a good set-up position, and make a back-swing to the half way - three quarters position.

You will find you automatically hold the club in your left hand in the perfect set position for your grip strength. The reason for this is because to support the club with only your top-hand wrist, the club must be in a balanced position where the club feels the lightest and is easiest to hold.

You will also notice that the club will be on plane at this position.

This positioning of your left arm, club, and wrist set is a key point in your back-swing. If you can pass through this position on your way back and maintain the same angles at transition, your game will become more consistent.

I also recommend the swing setter, or the swing guide. This swing guide will show you the exact positioning, but the setter will be more practical for feel.

cheers,
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Old September 26th, 2007, 12:17 PM
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Makes a lot of sense MyGolfster. I will try it at home tonight.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 01:24 PM
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I just tried this in my living room and I was instanly put into the posititons I have on "good" swing days...I think you really have something here
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Old September 27th, 2007, 01:04 PM
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One very strong suggestion. Get a David Leadbetter Swing Setter. It is an amazing swing aide and helps perfect the wrist hinge and release, as well as tempo, swing plane and it has a molded grip that makes you put your hands in the correct position

I take lessons from a guy who is the assistant coach at Cal Berkley and they make all their players get one.

Well worth the investment.
respectfully disagree . see previous posts on this ( see search) and most people think the swingsetter was a waste of $....
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Old September 28th, 2007, 05:51 PM
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I just tried this in my living room and I was instanly put into the posititons I have on "good" swing days...I think you really have something here

Thanks! It truly does work!

It gives you a great feel for the position in your left hand as well.

I think I'll post the tip as a separate thread
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Wrist Hinge

I wouldn't worry too much about your cupped left wrist. Bobby Jones had a cupped left wrist at the top of his swing, major bend in it. And I seem to remember he was a FAIR golfers in the old days. I've heard all those tips about not having a cupped left wrist, but I choose to ignore all of them. And now that I've seen Bobby Jones has his left wrist cupped at the top, I don't feel bad about ignoring all those PGA teaching pro's advise.
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