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Hi everyone, I am new to these forums but I have been lurking for some time.

Anyway, I took a video of my swing a few weeks ago, I was wondering if anyone could make some comments. I used to play off 3 but I broke my leg about a year ago which means that I have spent ages getting back into golf and I am starting to play better after going back up to 5. Swinging the club isn't the problem, it is walking the 18 holes!

I already know of three issues which I think need working on.

1. I am stood too far from the ball, this results in a flat swing. The problem I have is as i move towards the ball the take away is more on plane, but the downswing is far too steep and I hit a big pull. At the moment I think my downswing is on a proper plane so that **** between flat and correct changes to correct and steep.

2. Also I think that my wrist cock is OK but I also suffer from a wrist bend which makes my swing very 'wristy' and I often hit a big push / fade or a pull / draw if my wrists are too fast / slow.

Anyway, the swing can be found here. Thanks for you advice.

Richard

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I checked the link and it appears fine. Maybe it was not working because YouTube hadn't properly uploaded the video.

Got it! I can see it now..

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Very nice swing. I think you take the club inside a bit too quickly on the takeaway. At the top your club points little bit right. I think a minor adjustment on the takeway, where you keep your clubhead on or near the target-line a bit longer will fix you right up.

Thanks.

Yeah with it being a short iron I suppose you do tend to 'snatch' at it a bit more.

Anyway I have taken some stills which I think show things a lot better.

On the back-swing I am relatively flat. Now on the down-swing I get back onto plane and it looks pretty good. Now the thing that causes this most be the shoulder rotation to start the down-swing. Instead to coming down into the shot my right shoulder comes 'over-the-top' and brings the club back onto plane. The problem is that this is a very inconsistent movement, hence the push / pull shots.

Now when I get my back-swing on plane I keep the same shoulder movement at the top of my back-swing and hit a big smothering hook which is to be expected and I now far too steep on the down-swing.

Is that a correct assessment and if so, what can I do to correct it?

Thanks.

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Whatever movement you make at the transition on the top of the backswing is probably the best move you could have made from that position. I think the problem is not with the move. I think the problem is with the position! I think that my suggestion for the takeaway will put you on a less flat plane on the way up, put you in a better position on the top, from which you will automatically make the correct move on the way down, on a plane that will come closer to the upward plane. If you took the club back on the plane that represents the 'average' of your current upward and downward planes, I would think that you might have a better chance of matching your upward plane when you come down.

I hope this makes sense: It is difficult to describe this kind of stuff!

PS I am not suggesting that you make any drastic changes. Your swing is much too good for that. I wouldn't get obsessed with precisely matching up the planes either. As soon as you find something that you can repeat, it won't really matter where the lines are pointing!

Yeah I agree with what you are saying I suppose. I don't want to make drastic changes as it is almost there.

What I do want to work on if getting a swing where the swing plane is consistent. I still feel that I have a problem with 'cupping' of the left wrist (although not in that clip). Once I have a consistent plane then I can fix that problem and I should be back to shooting in the sub par range again.

Thanks for your help and if anyone wants to comment I would be very grateful.

Here is some cupping of the left wrist tips.

Golf Instruction - Lesson 8 from Golf Today

Isn't cupping of the left wrist usually too strong a grip of the left hand ?

That sounds about right. I have always had a strong grip. When I was about 12 i used to hit huge slices and that stopped it. My grip is better than it was but still not perfect.

I think you are supposed to see 2 knuckles of the left hand, I get 2.5 or 3 on a bad day.

Symptoms of strong left hand are:
(1) right to left shots - hooks.
(2) shots blocked to the right.
(3) the dreaded pull hook if you don't make a good shoulder turn.

I recently weakened my left hand with great results.

I was able to get used to the new grip by gripping SUPER lightly.
I also went to the range and practiced hitting balls with a very weak left hand which got my hands arms body and mind used to the new grip.

I put some clubs here and there and practiced gripping the club consistently the right way.

Agree here, pausing half way back the club is substantially inside. At the top it is a little across the line (pointing to the right), but not very much to worry about.

Keep working on your setup, get some help from a good player you know. It does look a little off as you have pointed out.

Once your setup and posture are correct, if you swing the club with a good shoulder turn your plane will fall into place nicely over time to match your setup.

Lastly, watch Steve Stricker. He uses minimal wrist and hits the ball with his big muscles. Try focusing on more big muscles when you hit it instead of thinking about less wrist. Just keep your forearms relaxed and hit the ball with your core.

here he is here, but this was actually a poor swing for him. His shoulders were open and he ended up pulling the shot.

YouTube - Steve Stricker Pulled Driver on SwingVision