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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:29 PM
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Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

I need a lot of help with my short game especially with my short chips, now usually if its on thin grass then I usually just do a bump and run with a 9 iron or PW. My main problem is chipping with my 60 degree wedge, I usually pull it out if im in a thicker lie or thick rough grass or I just need to lob over a bunker or little hill, a lot of times i shank the chip, like sorta topping it in a way, It feels as if I lift my club up at the end. My question is simple, please give me some tips and advice so I have a sense of direction when I practice my game at the range.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

Make sure your hands are in front of the ball at impact and play the ball just back of center in your stance...hit down to make the ball go up and don't look up until you hear the ball land on the green...
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Old December 13th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

When i am trying to get the ball up quickly i grip the club lighter and let the weight of the club do the work,if its coming out of heavier/thicker grass make sure yohit the ball with a descending blow with the ball further back in your stance.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

I know this may sound kind of concieted..but go look in the photo's section..a day on the links..at my wedge shot close up and pretty much try to copy it..Seriously..lol
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Old December 14th, 2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

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I know this may sound kind of concieted..but go look in the photo's section..a day on the links..at my wedge shot close up and pretty much try to copy it..Seriously..lol
Please don't take this the wrong way, but this is terrible advice. Firstly, you could at least link to the picture you are talking about: http://www.golfrewind.com/photos/fil.../5/megolf2.bmp

But, secondly, telling someone to copy a picture is really bad. You only have one picture there... how did you get into that position? How hard did you hit it? How much downward striking did you do? How much did you rotate your hands? More straight back or more arced? Lots of questions that can't be answered just by "looking and copying a picture." Besides, unless the OP had the same musculature and arm length and built and stance and etc. as you, it will be impossible to directly "copy" someone else's picture.

What would be more helpful would be to list what swing thoughts you use to set up, how aggressive you go after the ball, how much or little forward lean of the shaft you use to set up with, etc.

To the OP, I think that a big thing that helps is to start with your weight mostly on your left foot, and keep it there. On chips and short pitches, I like to feel like I am rotating about my leg, as opposed to rotating about my spine as on full iron shots.

I'd suggest you make a trip to the library and read one of the many excellent short game books. Watson's Getting Up and Down or Pelz's Short Game Bible or Stan Utley's Art of the Short Game are all highly recommended, and rather me copying all the text from these fine books, you can go and borrow them and read it at your leisure.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 02:15 AM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

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I know this may sound kind of concieted..but go look in the photo's section..a day on the links..at my wedge shot close up and pretty much try to copy it..Seriously..lol
You are a funny kid...
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Old December 17th, 2007, 12:39 PM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

We seem to have some confusion of what a "Chip" shot is. If you're trying to Flop the ball over a bunker, you're not really playing a "Chip" shot. That's what most of us call a "Pitch" shot or a "Flop" shot. And each shot calls for a different technique. For a Chip, I keep my hands firm, and ahead of the ball, with the ball back in my stance. I try to hit down on the ball to make sure I hit the ball first and have the ball come out low and roll when it lands. For a Pitch, I play the ball in the center of my stance, I relax my grip and hands, so I have "soft" hands. Then I make more of a "swiping" motion, so the ball come up high and soft. For a flop, I play it pretty much the same way, but I open the club face so I can hit the ball even higher with less roll yet. If I really have to stop the ball dead, I'll play the shot with the ball forward in my stance, and hit it even higher. Soft, Dead hands are a must for this shot, which is the exact opposite of what you want for a good "chip" shot. Two different shots, with two different techniques. Learn both shots, and you'll be ahead of the game.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Short chips with 60 degree wedge help

What OnePutt said. You have to be clear about whether you are chipping or pitching. A chip is just off the green where you are close to level with the green whereby you don't have to get over a trap or other obstruction to get onto the green. A chip has a very low trajectory that lands on the green quickly and rolls to the hole. I don't think I would ever use a 60 degree wedge for a chip.

You are talking about a pitch and I do understand your problem with your wedge. You must hit the ball with a descending blow with that club. I think you described your problem very well. You are probably lifting your club in an effort to lift the ball off the ground. That is a big no-no with any wedge. You are doing what people call flipping the club which happens when you let the clubhead lead the hands to the ball. Find as many tips and videos on the basic pitch shot as you can. It is not an easy shot. It takes a good set up, steep backswing, proper hand position and forward rotation.
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