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Old March 14th, 2008, 12:31 AM
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When to hinge the wrists...

A friend of mine had recommended that instead of bringing the club along the target line, and bringing the hands to the 9:00 position, he recommended doing the one piece takeaway (with the hands passing just over the right foot) and then proceeding to hinging the wrists and raising the arms. The swing appears to be more upright - rather than flat.

So is this a wrong time to hinge the wrists and bring the arms up? I was just curious. I am sorry but I don't have capability to upload videos.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

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A friend of mine had recommended that instead of bringing the club along the target line, and bringing the hands to the 9:00 position, he recommended doing the one piece takeaway (with the hands passing just over the right foot) and then proceeding to hinging the wrists and raising the arms. The swing appears to be more upright - rather than flat.

So is this a wrong time to hinge the wrists and bring the arms up? I was just curious. I am sorry but I don't have capability to upload videos.
If I said never would you believe me!?!?

Take your address...there is a bend up and down in your wrist...make your wrists firm as possible for the purpose of this exercise and take the club back to 9:00 without allowing your wrists to move in the least in any direction...

They should be fully cocked...

A real swing would mimic all of this, only the wrists would be relaxed, but keeping the same position...gravity will release the club for you on the downswing provided you have a good, not too firm grip...
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Old March 14th, 2008, 07:32 AM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

There are different schools of thought on this. Some advocate bending the wrist immediately on take away by pressing the right thumb pad into the left thumb, others say take the club back and let the wrist hinge automatically.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 07:36 AM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

Golf Digest had a tip a couple of months ago to fix a specific problem (I don't recall what) and it said try hinging the rests first, then swinging the arms up. It just goes to show that no one type of backswing will be perfect; its whatever works best for the individual.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 09:37 AM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

For me any hinge is contrived and takes away from the natural swing of the club, thus reducing consistency...but to each his own...
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Old March 14th, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

It all depends on the kind of swing you have.

I just want to comment on the raising the arms part. For a traditional 2 plane swing, raising the arms is an integral part of the swing. I think that most teachers teach this swing, and so will teach raising the arms on the back swing. But if you have a 1 plane swing, this will just get you in trouble and make it very difficult to stay on plane.

As far as hinging the wrists, it can be a good thing for the right swing. In my experience, working on Jim Hardy's one plane swing, part of this involves rolling the forearms on the back swing to allow this wrist hinge. I found this to take away from my consistency, so I removed that from my swing. I had a lesson earlier this week, and my teacher told me my club was in perfect position in my back swing, so apparently I wasn't wrong to take that out of my swing.

From the lesson, I learned that rather than rolling the forearms and hinging on the back swing, rolling the forearms forward on the follow through is important. This helps release the club and make square contact.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 12:04 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

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It all depends on the kind of swing you have.

I just want to comment on the raising the arms part. For a traditional 2 plane swing, raising the arms is an integral part of the swing. I think that most teachers teach this swing, and so will teach raising the arms on the back swing. But if you have a 1 plane swing, this will just get you in trouble and make it very difficult to stay on plane.

As far as hinging the wrists, it can be a good thing for the right swing. In my experience, working on Jim Hardy's one plane swing, part of this involves rolling the forearms on the back swing to allow this wrist hinge. I found this to take away from my consistency, so I removed that from my swing. I had a lesson earlier this week, and my teacher told me my club was in perfect position in my back swing, so apparently I wasn't wrong to take that out of my swing.

From the lesson, I learned that rather than rolling the forearms and hinging on the back swing, rolling the forearms forward on the follow through is important. This helps release the club and make square contact.
Dude....that's alot to think about over the ball...
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Old March 14th, 2008, 12:11 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

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Dude....that's alot to think about over the ball...
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I didn't think I said to think about anything over the ball?
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Old March 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

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If I said never would you believe me!?!?

Take your address...there is a bend up and down in your wrist...make your wrists firm as possible for the purpose of this exercise and take the club back to 9:00 without allowing your wrists to move in the least in any direction...

They should be fully cocked...

A real swing would mimic all of this, only the wrists would be relaxed, but keeping the same position...gravity will release the club for you on the downswing provided you have a good, not too firm grip...
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. If you don't allow your wrists to move in the least in any direction. Than how can your wrists be fully cocked? If your wrists don't move, how did you cock your wrists? This doesn't make any sense. In order to Cock your wrists, you have to bend or move them.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 01:15 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

Not if they are cocked at address...

Try it...keeping all the same relationships at address, you turn your shoulders away and raise your arms...no need to move the wrists at all...let them fall into the slot when shifting the weight forward and whip the club through...

I'm not making this up...
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Old March 14th, 2008, 02:15 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

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Not if they are cocked at address...

Try it...keeping all the same relationships at address, you turn your shoulders away and raise your arms...no need to move the wrists at all...let them fall into the slot when shifting the weight forward and whip the club through...

I'm not making this up...
I did 'get' your post (#2), but 'fully cocked' is probably too strong. Do you agree?

Also, do you feel that you are increasing wrist-cock on the down-swing, prior to the release?
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Old March 14th, 2008, 05:48 PM
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Re: When to hinge the wrists...

Before I started taking lessons again I had an early hinge and I would hinge again at the top of my backswing. Now I've switched to the one piece takeaway and my shots have definitely improved, especially with fat and thin shots.
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