The lighting is terrible I know, and a better video is coming up as soon as I get a better camera.
What I would like to get answers on is how do I get an efficient golswing from what I currently have?
People who think one style or the other is better, well please don`t respond.
I would like the people who have an understanding of golf fundamentals and can give me advice on how to ingrain that to what I already have.
I know I release my right knee going back as well as my hips quite much, But Vijay singh does the same. I'm not saying I swing like Vijay singh but I would like an adaptation that is close too what I feel is natural and can work consistently.
I know thats difficult too answer, even for a golfpro who has been taught different styles but come on, impress me
For reference you can see what has changed from the swing I had last oktober. YouTube - My golfswing
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
Your hips and shoulders look like they move in unision, on the way up and on the way down. You do look like VJ a little bit, but there are differences, especially at impact. At impact your hips should be open, and your shoulders square. Your hips AND shoulders look square. If you want to improve what you have, you could get a hold of VJ's swing sequence and try to copy it more faithfully: Interestingly, that's how VJ got his swing (modeled after Tom Weiskopf)!
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
The other guys are right. BIG improvement on the swing. Your hips and shoulders ARE both square at impact and I think I know why.
You seem to sway just a bit into your back swing and your left knee is completely straight by the time you get to the top. It looks like you shift your weight to the left heel. Your right knee looks like it is pointed WAY behind the ball, and in line with your right shoulder.
If you keep most of the weight on the ball of the left foot, keep the left knee slightly bent, and point your right knee ator just back of the ball with the same shoulder turn, it will give your hips a head start towards the impact pisition. This should allow them to be slightly open while the shoulders are square.
This would have been easier to write if you stood on the correct side of the ball.
If you do another video, have it show your feet. That might help someone see something helpful.
Good luck.
Last edited by alcyone : April 23rd, 2008 at 04:41 PM.
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
Well, ill have to check how much I can coil my back with resisting with the lower body.
I like both answers though. I have a decision to make.
Emulate Vijay's swing or create a more modern swing with lots of coil in the back during the backswing. The older guys have stated several times that they get the coil in the back in the downswing. Why? Well if you turn freely in the backswing and start the downswing by turning your hips and staying in you position with the back/shoulders you will inevitably get that coil.
The point is however, to the the shoulders square at impact and the hips a little bit open.
The reason I see this as important is not by power and coiling issues. But swing plane issues. If I turn both in unison as straightshooter said I'm extremely depended on squaring them up at the same time.
If the shoulders for instance gets open at impact and the hips square as a result of turning them together all the way, I will have a swing plane coming from the outside? Agree? Or if both are open and no seperation between them.
That pictures matches excellent with what Ive been struggling with (pulls and slices).
Whatever way I take. ill have to learn how to release the hips more then the shoulders in the downswing. Maybe thats easier with 90/45 relationship regarding shoulders/hips but Vijay has A LOT of hip rotation and still manages to get it open in relation to the shoulders.
I have to say I have a problem with my shoulder, a slight inflammation Ive had a few years wich makes it a little difficult to coil the way I'm supposed too.
Maybe ill do another video tomorrow and try to coil more and not turning as much, are you guys up for it ?
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
In the first video, your swing plane didn't look all that bad. You didn't seem to be coming over the top or anything like that. Hopefully that didn't change before the second vid. Your coil looks adaquate since you get the right shoulder behind the ball but if you have to take a little less coil to get those hips open at impact, I'd do it.
I think you will find that the best way to go inside-out is to get the hips cleared before the shoulders. Seems like the way you do it now would create a slice and/or bad pull.
A thought on VJ's swing. Fantastic, but...are you built like VJ? You have to take that into consideration. If not, to go from where you are to being able to swing like VJ will take lots of time and $$$ with a pro, and on the range. I kinda know where you are coming from because I hit thousands of balls a year trying to develop a wedge game like Phil Mickelson. When I first started working on it, I might hit 2,000+ a week. Did it help my game....oh yeah, by about 15 strokes a round. Can I hit wedges like Phil.....no way. Maybe if I were left handed....nah, probably not.
Something else I notice on the last viewing. Because your hips and shoulders come through at the same time, it looks like you are flipping the left wrist through impact because there is no other way to dissipate the momentum. (It's real hard to stop the youtube vids exactly where you want to, but that's what it looked like.)
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
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Originally Posted by Max Iron
Well, ill have to check how much I can coil my back with resisting with the lower body.
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I have to say I have a problem with my shoulder, a slight inflammation Ive had a few years wich makes it a little difficult to coil the way I'm supposed too.
Much of the coil is achieved in the lower back, not in the shoulder area. Be sure to address the ball with good posture (as in the picture): Bend at the hips. Stick your butt out. Stand relatively tall (don't slouch). This will free up the lower back to coil up.
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Originally Posted by Max Iron
Maybe ill do another video tomorrow and try to coil more and not turning as much, are you guys up for it ?
Sure! Heck, I might even stay up for it!
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Edit: I just saw the video from last year. Your posture does look decent in that, so that may not be it.
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
Alcyone:
I will never try to swing exactly like Vijay though.
He is a mucho grando man with core muscles I could dream of.
But I could emulate his hip turn and transition because it fits my inflexibility and shoulder problems. If I coil I get a great amount of strain in the back shoulder.
I will work on this:
- Keeping the knees bent at all times. I think I lose power and ability to unwind my lower body if one of the legs straiten, agree?
- Find a way to check the amount of shoulder turn I have. Record it and try to associate a feeling to the proper amount of turn.
- The transition and hip turn towards the target. I have as you've seen no problem turning my hips beautifully in the backswing, getting them ahead in the down swing is a another issue.
ill let both you guys know if I get the chance to do it today , especially straightshooter seems so enthusiastic
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
Well guys, ill have to disappoint you.. Tried to upload the new videos on youtube and swingacademy but neither worked.. Strangely enough.
If anyone has an idea whats wrong with either ill take your advice gladly :)
However.. Something seems more and more apparent to me. The transition is for me the most important aspect of the entire game. Whenever I do that correct the arms fall into the slot and I hit a straight shot. If you wanna know how I'm thinking to do it just ask
Re: My swing on youtube, finally. How do I make this one efficient?
Considering the bad lighting, I am thinking that your hands are a lttle too forward of the imaginary ball with the iron you were demonstrating. I would also insure that when you set your feet that your weight is balanced and on your instep. I hope this helps...