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Old May 3rd, 2008, 02:42 AM
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no roll on my drive

I hit a cleveland hi bore 9.5. I have a slight fade and average about 310-330yds every drive but I get no forward roll. If anything I get backspin. My ball is usually about 2 feet behind where it hits the fairway. Any suggestions?
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 06:25 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

Yes, you might try aiming slightly left of center and be happy!
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 10:05 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

i have no problem hitting the ball where I want just cant get any forward roll to get some more distance out of it.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 11:37 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

What shaft are you using? I use the same driver head and got no roll either until I switched to a much lower launching shaft than the stock models.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 12:09 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

Just out of curiosity...what sort of distance would you be satisfied with?

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Old May 3rd, 2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

310 - 330 carry? Are you being serious? Unless you live at 10K feet, that's entering JB Holmes range.

If this is a serious post, have you tried different balls? How about a different driver?
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

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310 - 330 carry? Are you being serious? Unless you live at 10K feet, that's entering JB Holmes range.

If this is a serious post, have you tried different balls? How about a different driver?
Yeah, I'm pretty dissatisfied with my driving distance unless I too can average better than every single person on the PGA TOUR ( PGATOUR.com - PGA TOUR Statistics ) [end sarcasm]

The OP is either quite disconnected from reality or a troll or I'll allow the teeniest tiniest chance that maybe the OP is a Long-Drive competitor -- though I think that if that were true that that info should have been stated up front...

I think that maybe the first thing you should do, longball13, is truly evaluate what you are saying here...
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

What a joke, just hit it on a lower trajectory
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Old May 4th, 2008, 02:16 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

I appreciate all the sarcasm. I just joined this forum and was looking for some advice and this is what I get. I know its easy to assume that I cant hit as far as I say because you cant see me do it but I swear its the truth. I dont believe its very uncommon for an amateur golfer such as myself to carry 315-330. Ive seen many people do the same. Just some simple tips to get more forward roll was all I needed. thank you to the people that helped me. Perhaps I'll find a new forum to help me.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 08:29 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

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I appreciate all the sarcasm. I just joined this forum and was looking for some advice and this is what I get. I know its easy to assume that I cant hit as far as I say because you cant see me do it but I swear its the truth. I dont believe its very uncommon for an amateur golfer such as myself to carry 315-330. Ive seen many people do the same. Just some simple tips to get more forward roll was all I needed. thank you to the people that helped me. Perhaps I'll find a new forum to help me.
Okay what you need to do is Goto Golf Galaxy and get a Ball Launch Monitor. Why you are not getting any roll is your Backspin or RPMs are too high on your ball. If you truly have that much carry distance you are swinging about 120 mph and ball speed is about 170. So you would need about 9-10 degrees launch angle and about 2500-2700 rpms of back spin. Usually the best way to lower spin rate is through Driver head Loft meaning you need a 8.5,but you may want to try a High Kickpoint shaft with a Stiff Tip such as a Graffaloy ProLaunch RED.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 08:50 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

thank you cprosser01 I appreciate the help. perhaps ill do that.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 11:56 AM
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Re: no roll on my drive

I wasn't being sarcastic and you never answered my question.

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Old May 4th, 2008, 12:20 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

sorry shade I guess its not that I need to hit far but if I could get some forward roll on the ball it may allow me to hit farther. Ive often thought about joining the re-max long drive comp and Ive always been able to hit far. I think some of the people on here thought I was bragging or something
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Old May 4th, 2008, 12:44 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

No, I believe you hit the ball that far...but I think the point that some folks are trying to make is "how far is far enough"? What would 10 or 15 extra yards get you, honestly? If you were hitting it out there 220 with your Sunday punch I think most people could see the legitimacy in your quest for more roll...but you're parkin' it down there so far past most people's drives that you'd have to yell or use a walkie talkie to communicate with them. People are envious of long ball hitters and are offended or put off when one complains about needing extra distance, plain and simple. Aside from that, did you ever stop to consider that the little extra roll that you desire might put you between clubs on your approach? Or it might result in more than a little loss in control, meaning fewer fairways, more tree trouble. Now, I agree that more distance usually means lower scores but that only holds true to a certain point...at the distances you're hitting I doubt you'd benefit that much from hitting it further, especially if you hit it consistently within 25 yards of the same distance off the tee all the time...you should be getting pretty good with the wedge and nine iron by now if you are parking it down there 100-125 out every time. So, that's why I ask "how far would be far enough for you"?

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Old May 4th, 2008, 02:04 PM
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Re: no roll on my drive

I'd just like to say that I an not envious or put off -- I have completely accepted my own personal distance and 100% play within my own game.

That doesn't change the fact that I am highly skeptical of the claim. If longball is really averaging 320, he's averaging better than the best players in the entire world -- I just find that hard to believe. Even harder to believe is his claim that "Ive seen many people do the same" implying that many people are also averaging 320. Either he's playing in a whole different class of players than are at the courses I've played, or he's severely overestimating people's capabilities. No, it's not impossible, but it is just quite hard to believe. There is a lot of "overestimating" that occurs over the Internet and at the 19th hole.

He's just one example: there is one course I play that at least 6 of the holes are measured just plain wrong. You hit your drive, you get to your ball and compare it to the 200, 150, 100 yard stakes, subtract where you are by the stakes from the yardage on the scorecard, and you think "Wow, I hit a monster drive!" and the first time or two I played the course, that's what I thought, too. But, after playing it several more times and more experience so I learned what a monster drive versus just a good drive feels like, I know now that those holes are just measured wrong. One of them is a good 60 yards shorter than the scorecard. And on this course, almost every hole seems like it is 10 to 20 yards shorter than what it says on the card.

Another thing is that if the holes have any kind of dogleg in them, the distance that is measured is always measured in straight lines. The lines goes to the corner of the dogleg and then go into the green. Well, if you are accurate enough, you can hit the ball near those 150, 100 yards stakes going into the green, but again, you didn't really hit it (scorecard - 125) yards because you cut the dogleg some. You can easily be fooled into thinking you hit it an extra 20, 40, maybe even 60 yards depending on how much you could cut off. But, that doesn't mean that you actually hit the ball that far.

Look, I'm not saying any of these thing are what you are doing, longball. It is just that you have to realize that these are pretty darn extraordinary claims. There are people out there with the ability to hit the ball that far, and if you are one of them, then you probably should be trying out for the long drive contests, or even on the mini-tours. The kind of distance you are claiming you average is just... well... unbelievable. So, I hope that you will forgive me if I just remain skeptical.

Nevertheless, cp's idea of finding a launch monitor is the best idea, really, though I wouldn't go to a large chain store. I'd try to find a small local clubbuilder that will have access to a wide range of products. If you are generating the speeds you say you are, you probably don't just need to go down to a 8.5 degree lofted driver, you may need to go to a 7 or 6 or 5 degree lofted driver (like the ones this forum's sponsor Bang Golf makes). A good clubbuilder will be able to find the head and shaft that will be best for you. If you go to a big box store, they will be able to find the best off-the-rack club for you, but a clubbuilder can make one personalized just for you and your swing. There are a lot of variables that could be in play here -- weight of the shaft, cp mentioned kickpoint, torque, flex profile, how aggressive or smooth your transition is, etc. etc. A good clubbuilder will be able to fit a club that fits best to all your personal preferences on these variables.
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