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Old May 23rd, 2008, 01:03 AM
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irons are good but the driver is a big problem

i went to the range today, my irons were on the money. i'm glad that i can say that 6-PW are clubs that i can hit with ease. my driver has a problem, i still slice it and push slice it everytime i do a full swing. if i do my 3/4 shot(stinger shot) i can get it to low and to fade. but i want to learn how to full swing my driver so i can play golf the way that i want. i feel that my problem is an outside to inside swing path on the downswing. also i sometimes hit it off the heel of the club. before i swing i always think "shake hands with the target" also when i saw my backswing at the top. the club was pointing a tad left of the target. so i'm wondering how i can fix this slice, i'm not looking for a band-aid but something or an exercise to work on when i go tomorrow.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 07:14 AM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

You could try lots of things. You could try to set up for and hit horrible hooks with your driver. You could try to hit driver straight with some controlled mini-swings, not worrying about distance, and work your way up from there. You could try to master your 3-iron or 5-wood first. You could take a driver-lesson.

Also, check the 3/4 stinger shot in the mirror. Your stinger-shot swing may be fuller than you think! Many golfers underestimate the length of their actual backswing and take it back way too far.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 06:45 PM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

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Also, check the 3/4 stinger shot in the mirror. Your stinger-shot swing may be fuller than you think! Many golfers underestimate the length of their actual backswing and take it back way too far.
Ain't that the truth. During my lessons, the instructor taped me and showed that what I feel is not necessarily the reality. In fact what I feel is not reality at all. My back swing was past parallel, my backswing was looping, my path was outside in, etc. He asked me to make half swing, and it turned out to be a full swing.

But with proper lessons and observations by your friends/ instructors and feeding it back to you, you learn to match your feel with the reality.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

Try setting up further from the ball. Your likely too steep on your driver which can sometimes work fine with the irons, but with a wood and long irons will send you slicing. That will flatten your swing plane. Bend your knees a bit and see if that works. Thats the best I can do without seeing your swing.

Also keep an eye on where you are setting the ball in your stance. Should be even with your left shoulder (if your a righty). That sometimes will cause a slice if yoo far back in your stance and you hit it with the club face open.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

thanks birdie, i set my ball up with my left foot and BAM straight all day!!! so pumped right now, i figured i might need a 9 loft instead of a 8.5 loft
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 10:33 PM
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haha that was my problem i just figured out yesterday that i had driver too far back in stance, that **** D1 beats the **** out of the ball, i've hit a few balls in the 300yard range with it in last two days
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:42 AM
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lol TREY makes me wanna get that D1 even more
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Old May 24th, 2008, 02:05 AM
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lol I definitely see an improvement over the R7 i had
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

Cool! Ball position is so important on the driver. Most of us think we have it off our left heel but in reality it is further back than we think. I have observered so many people with the ball placed near the center of the stance on the driver. It is a real killer.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 03:43 AM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

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...the club was pointing a tad left of the target...
If you are right-handed, the club pointing left is actually a good thing. Take a look at Sergio Garcia (do a web search) at the top. He keeps the club from coming too far inside. That's the reason he's so good with his driver. He sacrifices a little distance, but his total driving is always very, very good. A club pointing to the right would be a much, much worse position.

I see you talking about needing a 9 degree instead of an 8.5 degree, and wanting a 907D1. If you get a new driver, make sure you get fit and don't just pick something off the rack. The 907D1 is a much different animal than the 983K you are playing. Optimizing launch angle and spin is a much more scientifically sound way of picking a driver than just thinking, "I want this," or "I think I need that." I'm just trying to give you the best advice I can after making similar mistakes myself.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: irons are good but the driver is a big problem

That is the complete opposite from my problem, I tend to place the ball too much in front in my stance... sometimes on the outside of my left ankle, so the general consensus is inside left ankle?
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Old May 29th, 2008, 03:21 PM
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That is the complete opposite from my problem, I tend to place the ball too much in front in my stance... sometimes on the outside of my left ankle, so the general consensus is inside left ankle?
Technically I think the most important thing is to have your lead arm hang down straight. When you grip your driver correctly your club may be leaning forward (i.e. the grip is closest to the target) a touch when you set up. When you put a ball in front of the clubhead, it ends up being approximately opposite your lead armpit.

In other words: To set up for a good swing, start from the top (your lead shoulder), not from the bottom (your feet).

For many golfers the driver does indeed end up inside lead ankle, when it is combined with the stance-width that they prefer to adopt. But I see that as somewhat coincidental.
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