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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:57 AM
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3skills swing instruction

Been reading a lot about it on another forum. Has anyone here heard about it or used it? What are your opinions? I have not heard it discussed on any other forum.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:13 AM
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

Never heard of this, explain more...
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Old June 18th, 2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

Some people really rave about it on golftuitiononline.com. The idea is that you learn three fundamental skills that get you to swing correctly relieving you of so many thoughts.
Here is how the method was explained in short:

Skill 1
hit down on the ball (Irons) to impart backspin and get a pure strike off the sweet spot of the iron. Drivers a parallel to the ground impact position.

Skill 2
Connect with the ball at the outermost point of the swing curve gives you a square contact

Skill 3
Turn the blade from slightly open to closed at impact for the boost in power

Skill one involves in part visualizing a nail going through the equator of the ball at a 20 degree angle to the ground as an impact and club angle reference. They also talked about putting a leaf on the ground in front of ball to which you hit down and through the ball.

Most people seem really excited about skill one. There seems to be more to it than I have explained here though. The guy who wrote the book is English and has a web site to purchase the book but some in the states were complaining about too much trouble to work out payment on the web site. The book is actually called Nail It!.
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

Yea sounds like a good swing analysis. I think that this would work but doesn't seem any different from a "normal" swing. Unless I'm not understanding correctly.
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

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Skill 1
hit down on the ball (Irons) to impart backspin and get a pure strike off the sweet spot of the iron. Drivers a parallel to the ground impact position.
While this swing thought can work, I think it actually is at odds with the Skill 2 that you listed. If the impact is at the edge of a perfect arc, the club should be working around the body and not intentionally down. If you are swinging down through the ball to hit a leaf (or a tee or anything else in front of it) then the club is no longer moving on a perfect arc -- there is a flat spot in the club's path. Like I said, this method can work -- it tends to work much better for two-plane up-and-down Nicklaus-type swings -- but I think that it is at odds with the goals of Skill 2.

The downward blow of the club comes from a good setup position -- specifically the spine angle and maintaining that spine angle throughout the entire swing.

And, skill 3 I feel shouldn't be a conscious feeling. It is a timing move if done deliberately. The natural movements of the body will bring the club from open to closed completely as part of the club's own inertia and the physiology of the human body. Now, again, there is power in this closing movement -- anyone who has used a screwdriver knows that -- but I think that holding off on closing in order to time it at just the moment of impact can lead to very inconsistent results. Especially if you aren't able to devote almost every single day to practice.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:03 AM
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While this swing thought can work, I think it actually is at odds with the Skill 2 that you listed. If the impact is at the edge of a perfect arc, the club should be working around the body and not intentionally down. If you are swinging down through the ball to hit a leaf (or a tee or anything else in front of it) then the club is no longer moving on a perfect arc -- there is a flat spot in the club's path. Like I said, this method can work -- it tends to work much better for two-plane up-and-down Nicklaus-type swings -- but I think that it is at odds with the goals of Skill 2.

The downward blow of the club comes from a good setup position -- specifically the spine angle and maintaining that spine angle throughout the entire swing.

And, skill 3 I feel shouldn't be a conscious feeling. It is a timing move if done deliberately. The natural movements of the body will bring the club from open to closed completely as part of the club's own inertia and the physiology of the human body. Now, again, there is power in this closing movement -- anyone who has used a screwdriver knows that -- but I think that holding off on closing in order to time it at just the moment of impact can lead to very inconsistent results. Especially if you aren't able to devote almost every single day to practice.
Skill 3 is one that many say they find hard to master. Some kind of abandon Skill 3 it seems. I would agree, trying to time that motion would lead to inconsistency. I am trying to figure out why so many of them are excited about Skill 1 though. Could they just be people who originally swept the ball off the ground and the feeling of hitting down on the ball and making a solid shot is exhilerating. I for one don't have a big problem hitting down on the ball and getting a little compression. The shot where you make a big ol' divot without effort and the ball compresses perfectly rather than clunks and then flies off the clubface does feel good.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

Best book ever written that anybody can understand and implement is Ben Hogan's 5 Lessons.

For $5 is a steal of a deal.
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

sad to admit - never read ben hogan's book!
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

I bought it and read it because of all the hoopla about it on the other forum.....not impressed.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:16 AM
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I bought it and read it because of all the hoopla about it on the other forum.....not impressed.
What does the book say about Skill 1 that is not already apparent? Does it at all have some Eureka moment pertaining to hitting down on the ball? That is the skill they all seem to rave about.
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Re: 3skills swing instruction

Beware of "fad" swing thoughts. Stick with core fundamental thoughts and you won't go wrong. Hogan's 5?
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