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I have played pretty well recently after rotator cuff surgery. I was almost back to singlr digits and then it happened Played in the wind one day started playing a stronn grip played pertty well the following day played again the club face is now closed at address and stays that way I try to weaken my grip but is always moves to the extrem stron state can see 3 knuckles on my left hand and rt hand my palm is almost facing the sky. To get any wrist hinge I am way over swinging and for some reason I cant make my self shorten my swing. I am totally lost. my 5 iro will travel 225 yrd about 15 ft in the air drive wont get above 6* launch angle on the monitor. I qualified for the Distric championshipd last week start play on wed and I have no clue how to fix my swing I have tried everything over the last 3 days Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!!

Lots of questions...how long ago was the surgery? Is there lingering pain/stiffness? Startin' to panic a little? A lot? It's too late to take a break but I will say this...quit trying everything (like you have been over the last 3 days). Better dance with the ol' gal that brung ya. Forget about mechanics at this point...you were (are) a 4, you qualified for district...get your head together and go play golf. Remember this, golf is a multi-faceted game...you can bring a less-than-stellar game through the green and still win with a decent short game/putter. Think positive my friend.

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I feel for you! Posts like that read like a nightmare to me. I am not sure what is going on with your grip, but perhaps you should try the following: When you take your grip, be very deliberate in gripping the club with your left hand with the last three fingers only (pinkie, ring-finger, middle finger), and force yourself to not adjust from there. I am assuming you are a right-hander. I am guessing that you have somehow developed some sort of palm-grip, and have trouble shaking it off.

Best of luck!

Really, the worst thing is that posts like that READ like a nightmare.

Good advice from the posts so far. Just try to focus on your pre swing routine and the vision of the ball flight you want and then let your body correct the swing. Your body will correct your swing, but it won't happen if you get in the way. Try to just let go and let it fly.

I know it is hard for you right now, but you are a 4 handicap and will find your way back. Tension and worry can only work against you. Trust your swing and tempo.

The surgery was 5 months ago. Thanks for the advice. Yes the grip thing is weird it is such a strong almost a palm grip so I have no wrist cock until the top of the swing then I loose it at the top. I have been just chipping for the last hr. hopefully my swing just reappears . Thanks

Golf Lessons - GregJWillis

Golf Lessons - GregJWillis

Stowe...I have been going through the exact same thing for the last 5 weeks...and I'm not just saying that...I made a club change going to mp60s thinking that they would be more forgiving, and overnight I went from being a 2 handicap to not being able to hit the ball...my left hand (top hand) grip was so strong that I could look down and see the entire back of my hand, and standing at address over the ball I could not grip the club any other way...in fact I would try to rotate the left hand around to a more normal position and only could by doing some kind of weird palm grip and I couldn't even hold onto the club to swing it that way...hard to explain unless you've been there, but I tried everything and couldn't get a handle on it, all the angles were wrong, nothing felt right and I was hitting iron hooks 30 yds offline with a 7 iron, delofting so much that anything below a 5 was unuseable including all my woods which I couldn't hit more than 6 or 8 feet in the air and were duck hooking like mad...I knew it was the grip among other things and downloaded a bunch of grip info off the net...still could not get it and struggled around the course playing only irons and aiming way off to the right...a nightmare, and seemingly ridicilous in that how hard should a neutral to weak grip be to put on a club!?!?!?! I came across the answer today and hit a drive for the first time that actually went somewhere and straightish (still a draw, but a draw, not a hook) and got some air underneath it...was able to hit all my clubs again and it felt like a big weight had been lifted!!! The problem was with my geometry at address...I won't say what I was doing wrong since I was trying everything, but getting it right involved setting the wrists at address like the attached lesson (one I forgot about but have gone back to a number of times when things get off)...keeping the hands at address just left of the zipper, and setting the wrists as in the lesson made the angles of the club make sense again, and the club was able to be opened, closed and all the while remain in balance while maintaining the two knuckles on the left hand visible at address...try it out...I felt like I was taking crazy pills, but my swing finally feels back to normal...

You obviously have the skill and experience to have earned yourself to be a 4 handicap, And right now i think the only advice i can give is to get yourself out of your head. Golf seems to be a huge mental game sometimes more than the physical, You put yourself under so much stress thinking about what you need to correct and fix to be able to hit the ball. So i guess al i can say is maybe goto a driving range grab a big basket and just take soft easy swings just trying to get your rhythm back. Best of luck!

I played today and shot +4...I have to say that for me it definetly wasn't in my head...it was a physical set up problem and I COULD NOT get my grip right until I altered my setup geometry in relation to keeping a flat left wrist at address...I even forgot my 52* at home today too which is what I use around greens and from 100-115yds which is where I find myself often if I am driving well (which I was) but still managed a decent round...amazing how it comes back, but again, in my case, it was this weird creeping grip...glad that's over with...

[Thanks for all the advice. I played 3 holes today and had to walk off the course. Same thing either low hooks or no air under the ball at all . Talked to a respected pro and he said the flaws are all caused by the grip change like you I cant seem to get rid of the strong grip is I start it weak at address I regrip mis swing. Also my swing got so long possibly form trying to hit the ball not swing. I have my first round distric match on Tues. I am putting away the clubs till than. Any other advice would be appreciated
Thanks

I feel for you...more than a month of the same thing for me...one other tweak which could help after you sort your grip out that helped me get back in the saddle was checking the takeaway, making sure that you don't take the head back too far inside...good luck...I know how tough it is...

Hi played today shot 82.. grip is comming around found a callayaw grip with some reminder marks on it. Still feels awkward . and havent hit the driver yet. The problem that remains is my swing is still really long loosing it at the top any suggestions? Thanks to all

Not sure what you mean by "loosing it at the top". What seems obvious is that you have lost confidence in the feel of your grip, which gives you that confident feel of being in the strike position at the top so, in trying to find it you are going back too far. Grip pressure likely is an issue too. With the pressure of tournament play a day or so away, you need to stop the worry somehow and just swing, finding that level of enjoyment which will help keep you loose. I'm just guessing, but if you feel you are too far back, you are, and if you are, you are losing all your fundamental positions which cause errant shots. There are two things I can think of on short order which may help. First is grip pressure. Try to grip as neutral as you can (not too strong or weak positioin) and do some meditative drills on pressure. I know there are nuances to grip pressure, but for a quick recovery, try to even out the pressure just firm enough to prevent backlash of the club at takeaway. I like to close my eyes and just slowly swing the club out in front of my body in all directions focusing on allowing no movement at any contact point in my hands and fingers. Take some practice swings with that feel making sure there is no movement of the club in the hands.
Second is length of swing. The best and quickest way to fix is to focus on your leverage leg and knee. Do some practice moves ensuring the weight stays on the inside of the leverage foot and the knees stay flexed. You will feel like you are "sitting down" on your back hip, and when you get there, its time to change direction. Even if you feel your wrists are not set yet, change direction at that point anyway. C force will hinge the wrists if they are not already. Mentally, all I can say is the tensions of leverage in a swing are light years more important than swing length.

Try this, it worked for me. Go to the range, put on your glove, take your proper left-hand grip on any club and duct tape the gloved hand to the club's grip, make it pretty secure.
Make some swings, and then start hitting balls to get the sensation of swinging with the proper grip maintained throughout your swing.

What I did was buy loose 7 iron similar to my clubs and bought a training grip and put it on the club to hit balls with at the range. Also keep the club near the tv and hold it while watching tv. You will be surprised how much you will change your grip to a std position by doing this. Similar to the duct tape the training grip will not let you move your hands.