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Old July 6th, 2008, 05:39 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

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sometimes you need it though.


like on an uphill green and your at the bottom of the green on the fringe.

spin and stop and the top.
or when you're in the rough and there's hardly any room to allow any release, you just take a wedge, i use my lob, and you can make an aggressive stroke at the ball to ensure it makes it gets out first off, and that it stops quickly

i use ping tour series wedges and they spin great, i've had em for about a year and they still spin just as good as they did when i got them
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Old July 7th, 2008, 12:53 AM
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Re: Making chips bite

hey this is the 12 year old from ohio. one thing to start off with is a ball can do alot. take pro v's out to ur local putting green and start chipping. 1. make sure ur hitting more down on the ball than through. 2. make ur wrists loose instead of making it all shoulders. 3. keep head still and trust the spin.



p.s. me i hit about 3 hours around the putting green and it has really helped me and im sure it will help you to just devote a few moments around there and practice exactlsy what i said.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: Making chips bite

I think we have a definition problem here. A chip shot is:

A shot typically played from very close to the green, usually within a yard or two of the putting surface, in which the ball is struck using a club played back in the player's stance. It produces a low trajectory shot that is in the air very briefly before settling to the edge of the putting surface and rolling toward the cup like a putt. Chip shots are usually played with a 6-, 7-, 8- or 9-iron or pitching wedge.

Chip shots differ from pitch shots in that pitch shots are meant to have a higher trajectory with backspin, some distance away from the green that results in a shot landing closer to the pin, rolling very little, and played with lofted wedges.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 10:09 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

how about like padraig harringtons pitch at carnoustie last year when he was on 18??

it took like 5 hops then stopped.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 12:40 AM
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how about like padraig harringtons pitch at carnoustie last year when he was on 18??
Like you said that was a PITCH shot, not a CHIP.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 02:49 PM
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well how would you do that?
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Old July 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM
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well how would you do that?
Take a higher-lofted club, de-loft it and knock it down with acceleration...have to really pinch the ball on a tight lie and keep it low. Not a shot for most amateurs.

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Old July 20th, 2008, 05:42 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

Surely the idea of chipping is that the ball is supposed to release to the hole.

A decent pro will teach you to pick/ visualise where you want the ball to land & where it needs to release to, all then that is needed is to be able to chose the right club to release to the hole or to pick the right landing spot for the club you want to use. Learning all this is part of a good short game.

Ironically too much backspin, can be a pain, unless what you are actually meaning is you are not getting enough check on Pitch shots, which perhaps is the right question in the original post.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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ok , I have a very good long game hit 2/3rds of fairways and 3/4 greens my problem no short game. Have taken numourous chiping and pitching lessons to no avail. I have a weak left wrist which was broke in 3 places many years ago, i believe this is a large part of my problem. Today was finals of club championship and was only couple strokes down to leader after first day started with 3 pars then missed a green, 5 chips latter and 1 putt was in with a 6 missed next green and did it again. It got so bad I withdrew am at a total loss and dont know what to do anymore , I am a 9 handicap who can play to a 3 if I hit greens but am ready to quit golf and just be a clubmaker who no longer golfs
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Old July 20th, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

Quite frankly, I think that too much emphasis is placed on that check up shot these days. While it may have some use, most players use it way too often, and unless you have great touch as well as excellent ball striking ability, you will not be all that successful with it.

I play with guys all the time who use premium balls and grippy, milled type wedges. They spin the ball like crazy, but almost never hole out a chip or a pitch because the ball just hits and stops. It never has a chance to find the hole because it never spends any time on the green while moving. The guys who actually make chips and pitches are the old fashioned players who play these shots so that they are rolling when they get to the hole. Most of time the hop and stop shots never even get to the hole, much less have any chance of dropping. And when they miss the ball even a little bit it is either chunked short or skulled over the green.

Learn the shot if you feel you need it, but don't over use it like so many players do. Save it for when it's actually needed, and play the higher percentage running shot the rest of the time.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

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It got so bad I withdrew am at a total loss and dont know what to do anymore
What got so bad?...pain in the wrist? If you're saying despair due to your poor short game then I must say that's a poor excuse for withdrawing. Chronic pain is another story, though. If, however, there's no particular pain associated with pitching, chipping and putting (which I must assume since you mention no pain or problems associated with your long game), but merely a weak left wrist (why doesn't that bother you off the tee or on approaches? ) then I have to say it's gotten to you between the ears. I have heard of one-armed golfers that pitch, chip and putt just fine and I've see John Daly chip and putt one-handed to warm up and sharpen his technique...if they can do it, so can you. What exactly is it that you struggle with? Clean contact? Distance control? Frustration factor? Perhaps you just haven't met an instructor with the right set of golf eyes and imagery/technique you can connect with. I'd love to spend a few moments with you to see just what it is that's holding you back but it's a long way from Texas to Wisconsin. Still, if you could go into more detail about your predicament maybe someone here will recognize a flaw and suggest something to pull you out of your funk.

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Old July 21st, 2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: Making chips bite

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It got so bad I withdrew am at a total loss and dont know what to do anymore , I am a 9 handicap who can play to a 3 if I hit greens but am ready to quit golf and just be a clubmaker who no longer golfs
I have to ask too. What is weak? You can make a full swing, but not an abrieviated one?. Lots of things you can do like buy you one of the chipper clubs and use your regular putting stroke. Or buy one of the training gloves for the left hand with the steel brace.

My guess is your technique is wrong. Chipping and pitching are pretty simple shots, you just have to practice to learn the feel for distance.
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Re: Making chips bite

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ok , I have a very good long game hit 2/3rds of fairways and 3/4 greens my problem no short game. Have taken numourous chiping and pitching lessons to no avail. I have a weak left wrist which was broke in 3 places many years ago, i believe this is a large part of my problem. Today was finals of club championship and was only couple strokes down to leader after first day started with 3 pars then missed a green, 5 chips latter and 1 putt was in with a 6 missed next green and did it again. It got so bad I withdrew am at a total loss and dont know what to do anymore , I am a 9 handicap who can play to a 3 if I hit greens but am ready to quit golf and just be a clubmaker who no longer golfs
When I was about ten years old I shattered my left wrist & for many years it was extremely painful to lift things at certain angles, though I was told by my doctor that over time it would be stonger than my right. Something I began to doubt, though over thirty years on I certainly now belive what I was originally told.
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Re: Making chips bite

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actually the pro v1 has more spin than the v1x.
Not true, check Golf magazine, February 2008.
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 02:45 PM
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Re: Making chips bite

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Not true, check Golf magazine, February 2008.
I could care less about what a magazine (with dubious motives) says...I agree that the prov1 spins more...clearly obvious in my experience...


BTW...where have you been!!?!?!?
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