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Old July 4th, 2008, 06:11 AM
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Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

I cannot clear the hips properly in the through swing. That is my key point on working on right now.

Any visual images or analogies that can help me feel the correct motion?

As some of you have seen my hips and shoulder are both paralell to the target line at impact and this has to stop.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 10:04 AM
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Re: Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

Jim McLean 8 Step Swing - 1 - Jim McLean Golf Schools International
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Old July 4th, 2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

Good one in a golf magazine this month...

You are standing at home plate...start the downswing as if someone grabbed your belt buckle and pulled it to third base...
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Old July 4th, 2008, 03:11 PM
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Re: Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

The following drill, turned my swing around for the better a few years ago:

Set up with your lead-leg (closest to the target) straight, and complete your swing start-to-finish keeping it straight, driving the swing with your trail-leg (furthest from the target). You do so at your own risk: Take it very easy at first. You will be putting your lead-knee at risk for injury. You might not want to do this at all! That said, it did turn my swing around from a typical hack-swing into a nice swing. Please don't quote this message without the warnings! Once you get the hang of it and start liking the results, keep ingraining it, until you can carry the new swing into a normal swing, with both knees flexed.
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Chubby Checker's "The Twist"? J/K!! Listen to those guys above me! /\



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Re: Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

Concentrate on not letting your weight get behind the inner side of your right foot (for right handed hitters) on the back swing.
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Concentrate on not letting your weight get behind the inner side of your right foot (for right handed hitters) on the back swing.
Likely a big part of the problem. Additionally, check your knee flex and make sure they remain flexed. The knees determine hip level, and if you maintain leverage as quoted, the hips should clear without much thought given to them.
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Re: Any analogies or images that can help me with my hip turn?

If my pro told me after a video analysis that my hip turn in both backswing and throughswing is the most important aspect for me to work in I have atleast worked hard enough to get a decent swing?

Other than that he said my swing looked really good. I have no confidence regarding my swing these days but I guess its not that bad.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM
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If my pro told me after a video analysis that my hip turn in both backswing and throughswing is the most important aspect for me to work in I have atleast worked hard enough to get a decent swing?

Other than that he said my swing looked really good. I have no confidence regarding my swing these days but I guess its not that bad.
Not real sure what you mean here, but maybe some clarification of my point is needed, which I know is controversial. I'll just put it out there for what it is worth. Keep in mind my reference point is to simplify swing thought.
First of all, the hips cannot cause the upper torso to rotate around the axis of the spine, try as you may, you can't do it. The hips do have to coil in order to allow the rotation of the torso; in both directions. Equally, if not more important, the hips must remain level throughout the swing. The question is HOW to make the hips do both.
The "level" part is easy. Hip level is controlled by the knees, not something you do to the hips to keep them level. Straighten your leverage leg just a bit and the hips tilt. (I often get silently exasperated watching a pro admonish a student to keep the hips level all the while overlooking the fact the student is swaying or straightening the legs).
Hip rotation is, again, not something you have to do to the hips to cause to happen, though I have to qualify that by saying you CAN, but it is not necessary, especially in the learning process. Hip rotation is caused by the rotation of the upper torso, and limited by leverage in the leg, weight being kept on the inside of the back foot. The hips will then uncoil just fine by allowing the body to unwind off of the leverage fulcrum, or beginning the change of direction with a kick of the leverage knee toward the target as some instructors advocate.
Here is a simple drill which helps illustrate this and help develop the associated feels:
Assume stance without a club, hands on hips, ensuring the knees are well flexed. Simply coil the shoulders as if swinging, ensuring the head gets over the inside of the leverage leg thigh. You will feel the target side knee break away from the target as you coil the shoulders, which is nothing more than accommodating the hip coil. By keeping the weight on the inside of the back foot, you will feel resistance in the hips while the upper torso continues to rotate, and if all is in order, you will feel as if you are "sitting down" on the back hip at the top.
Long story short, the hips will take care of themselves if other fundamentals are present in the swing.
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