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Old July 28th, 2004, 01:56 AM
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Fade vs. Draw

Well I just learned to play a fade and draw today, and am getting used to using them regularly. I was planning on making one of these my regular shots instead of playing a straight shot every time but was wondering which is better to have as a regular set up?
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Old July 28th, 2004, 02:18 AM
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Well, I believe every golfer has a natural inclination to either draw or fade the ball in his swing. For some, it can go day to day. Sometimes, I go to the range before my round and hit draws. Other days, I hit fades. I think this is the most important thing to keep in mind. How you're feeling on that very day. Then adjust your game accordingly. Don't try to force a draw if you hit a fade 80% of the time. I've fought my swing for the first 12 holes in the past before giving up.

As for the debate between the draw and the fade, here's my take on things. A draw will give you more roll and distance. With a fade, you don't get the distance but I believe it's easier to control the spin of your shots. I normally hit fades but I'd like to think I can hit both shots. Different situations call for different shots so I wouldn't just stick to one shot.
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Old July 28th, 2004, 08:58 AM
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with hitting straight shots. I know guys who would sell their souls to be able to hit a straight shot every time! The ideal is to hit the shot that the design of the hole calls for--if you can.

Personally, I'm happy if the ball just goes in the general direction of the hole.
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Old July 28th, 2004, 05:55 PM
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I always try for straight (drives) ..but it usually fades (not slice..lol). I've heard that a "straight" shot is an accident..LOL when I hit my irons I can usually shape it either way tho.
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Old July 28th, 2004, 06:00 PM
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I used to just hit it "straight" at the hole, but then i started to develop a draw biased swing and found it alot easier to stick the ball tight. Sure it seems easier to hit it straight at the hole, but it isn't. Sometimes you play the shot and it goes straight, but not often. But why do you think the pro's always have a favorite way to work the ball? They just always hit a shot like it into the pin on a straight forward shot. It has helped me out alot since starting to draw it.
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Old July 28th, 2004, 09:25 PM
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I believe you must know them all.

I am an avid pool player. You can never be good being able to hit some of the shots.
Whatever English and ball speed the shot calls for you have to be able to hit.

If all you do is hit straight shots in pool you can't get good. You have to be able to shape the shot. The same applies to golf.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 10:22 AM
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I believe you must know them all.

If all you do is hit straight shots in pool you can't get good. You have to be able to shape the shot. The same applies to golf.
DITTO THAT! Every instructor I've taken lessons from indicates the same thing - to really score well, you can take out half the trouble on a golf course by learning to draw or fade your shots. Some players can do both, most players can do only one, and a lot of us can't control either way - but........learning a consistent draw OR fade will help eliminate a lot of trouble and help you score.

Personally, I like playing a DRAW. For some reason, a fade doesn't seem natural, when you consider the circular motion of a golf swing should draw the ball along it's natural path.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 10:41 AM
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i am still learning to hit it straight so i dont even bother with trying the draw or fade as of yet but it is a beautiful thing when you see these pros shape a shot around a tree on a dog leg and it drops 3 feet from the pin while i would have to hit it straight and take my medicine and then try and get it on and save par or bogey in my case........
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Old July 29th, 2004, 08:03 PM
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i play with a draw on almost every shot, except my short irons. it gives me a huge increase in distance, as it just rolls for ever!

whatever way i swing the club, i find it extremely difficult to fade the ball when it is required. it usulally ends up as a massive block out to the right. which is annoying

i think it is quite important to have a so-called "back-up" shot, that u can rely on happening when you swing the club natuarally, such as colin montgomery, he can play any shot, but his "back-up" is a 40yrd slice!
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Old July 29th, 2004, 09:21 PM
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I agree with what you all say about doing both, but i think im going to try and use a fade more often. Mainly because I have a natural draw and in all truthfulness I hate it. The ball goies to low, my distances are off, and theres to much roll especially around greens. I prefer the fade ecause I can get the ball to drop and stop or back up so i can contol it better. I cant seem to get as much control with a draw.
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Old July 30th, 2004, 09:44 AM
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am i crazy but i seem to hit it straight and never seems to fade or draw, is that because i am still new and dont have enough club head speed yet? maybe once in awhile i will bring it out right to left a little but not a lot at all, if anything i will push or pull it.....
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Old July 30th, 2004, 09:45 AM
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ok for me a right to left is a draw correct? i am a RH player, i am still learning so bear with me.......

out to in is a draw and in to out is a fade?

ok i think i just answered my own question.....
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Old July 31st, 2004, 01:23 AM
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I have a natural draw flight. I think it is a good idea to draw th ball with woods and long irons. However i always try and fade a ball with short irons because the fade will give you more spin and will allow the ball to land softly on the green where as a draw yopu will have little spin.
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Trevino said, "You can talk to a fade, but a draw just won't listen".

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Old July 31st, 2004, 06:37 AM
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am i crazy but i seem to hit it straight and never seems to fade or draw, is that because i am still new and dont have enough club head speed yet? maybe once in awhile i will bring it out right to left a little but not a lot at all, if anything i will push or pull it.....
i wouldn't worry to much about it. if you hit it straight, just keep doing that, cuz there are some who would just love to be able to do that, lol.

there are several reasons why you hit it straight. shafts that are stiff for you help you hit it straight and maybe your clubhead path is coming thru straight with the face of the club square. if you can do that all the time, you will keep the ball in play more.

1 step at a time. perfect what you have now before trying to do something else.

we all try for more distance, but very seldom do i see ppl. striving for accuracy 1st, and then distance.

straight drives + straight approach shots + good short game=defeated rivals,lol.

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